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[wms]

Dumb, dumb, dumb! Do they even consult us before this stuff?!?!

This is probably the first checklist that wasn't just put together by some goober behind a desk. Most of it was done by pilots that fly the line the most, and spend a lot of time observing where mistakes are made.

Like anything else, it will get evaluated on line and changes/improvements will be made.

 

[JumpersAway]

This is probably the first checklist that wasn't just put together by some goober behind a desk. Most of it was done by pilots that fly the line the most, and spend a lot of time observing where mistakes are made.

Like anything else, it will get evaluated on line and changes/improvements will be made.

I understand that many pilots don't read the brief, even though I would like to think they would. However, I also know that if I'm reading the thing 5 times, and it's still vague, it wasn't written properly. Writing is my thing, and it's difficult to stay connected to the reading.

In regard to the "Tech Brief"- give me what I need to change. I don't care why it was changed, and I don't care to know how many deviations have resulted from our previous way of doing business. That's an ERC stat I don't care to burn brain cells on. In the words often muttered in the movie "Drag Net"........."Just the facts, Ma'am".

 

[1080P]

The changes are minimal for the most part, like five proc changes and are the result of confirmed data of poor performance by crews (foqa, losa, line checks and other observations). Is it better to change things or keep sending out emails which no one reads. I've never understood why people who get paid by a company to fly their airplanes have a prob with them telling you how to fly them. Is the fo turning lights and a gen on, or saying the altimeters a thousand times really that big of a deal, if that screws you up maybe you should seek work elsewhere.

 

[1080P]

In regard to the "Tech Brief"- give me what I need to change. I don't care why it was changed, and I don't care to know how many deviations have resulted from our previous way of doing business. That's an ERC stat I don't care to burn brain cells on. In the words often muttered in the movie "Drag Net"........."Just the facts, Ma'am".

Agree

 

[LazyLightnin']

The checklist must be run in order for it to work. You telling me that attempting to takeoff with no flaps and entering the wrong altimeter are a result of anything other than not running, what was at the time, a perfectly good checklist?? Come onnn...

 

[buscap]

Checklist changes always seem to suck, demonstrating just how much we get by on habit as opposed to intelligence and attention to detail.

I don't like a few things about it; takeoff check lights in particular, but it will work.

The tech brief sucked butt!!! The tech writer should be beat silly with sock in a soap.!!!

 

[1080P]

The majority will always pay for the minority.

 

[wms]

I do agree a tech brief just telling us what we should be doing now, without a lot of extraneous info, would be good. That has been a problem in the past, and probably why some pilots are still doing things the old, old way.

The planning discussions about the procedures and what the procedures would be were very clear. The tech brief sould've been as clear.

 

[twott driver]

Airlines, dumbing down flying to the most incompetent person they've hired, and making everyone else pay the price. The first chance I get, I'm getting the f%ck out of this miserable industry.

 

[79%N1]

So the Captain sits with his thumb up his rear on the after start, while the FO is wailing away like a madman....instead of dividing the tasks like the old way, where the Capt flips the switches right in front of his face. It takes a bit longer to complete this now, as well.

Also, why was yaw damps taken off the originator? Isn't that where we are setting proper switch position for all systems, yet now we just skip over this and get it later? Strange.

 

[LazyLightnin']

So the Captain sits with his thumb up his rear on the after start, while the FO is wailing away like a madman....instead of dividing the tasks like the old way, where the Capt flips the switches right in front of his face. It takes a bit longer to complete this now, as well.

Also, why was yaw damps taken off the originator? Isn't that where we are setting proper switch position for all systems, yet now we just skip over this and get it later? Strange.

Yaw dampers were probably taken off because #2 usually disengages. Now, why it was randomly thrown into the middle of the before start instead of at the end of it... I'll leave that to the bozos responsible.

 

[goahead]

The reason the yaw dampeners were moved is in the tech briefing dork, damn at least read it.

 

[goahead]

The majority will always pay for the minority.

True dat man

 

[LazyLightnin']

The reason the yaw dampeners were moved is in the tech briefing dork, damn at least read it.

Yaw "dampeners"???

 

[goahead]

Didn't think we had to spell correctly on the weekends, my bad

 

[79%N1]

The reason the yaw dampeners were moved is in the tech briefing dork, damn at least read it.

Um, thanks. Read it. Thought it was stupid reason, still do. It can/should still be included in the originator....but really who cares. I'll do it whenever they want.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Yaw dampers were probably taken off because #2 usually disengages. Now, why it was randomly thrown into the middle of the before start instead of at the end of it... I'll leave that to the bozos responsible.

Of course one could read those yellow messages on that screen over there...Never mind let's just change the procedures again...

 

[777forever]

The reason the yaw dampeners were moved is in the tech briefing dork, damn at least read it.

Amen!

Of course one could read those yellow messages on that screen over there...Never mind let's just change the procedures again...

Did you read the tech briefing on why the yaw dampners are now included on the before start? It has to do with keeping common procedures between the 700/900 and 200 due to the new 700s having IRS's and their initialization.

Read the tech briefng folks. Also read the expanded checklist to know what the heck you're supposed to be doing.

The new checklists are a big improvement. Pilots don't like it right now because they are resistant to change unless it benefits their QOL. The tech briefing is clear and concise.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Still mind boggling that the altimeter thing has changed about six times. For the sake of Zoroaster, why can't they have BOTH of us us say __.__ set and crosschecked instead of burying the crosschecking fine print into the expanded procedures. Say what you mean and mean what you say!!

 

[JoeMerchant]

Still mind boggling that the altimeter thing has changed about six times. For the sake of Zoroaster, why can't they have BOTH of us us say __.__ set and crosschecked instead of burying the crosschecking fine print into the expanded procedures. Say what you mean and mean what you say!!

BINGO!...This altimeter thing has gotten out of hand....Focusing on minutia while the big picture slips away.....