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scarlet

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Doctor’s Note/Documentation Required​
Issue Date: 11/08/05
Exp. Date: 02/08/06​
INFORMATIONAL BULLETIN

FIB-49-05 Page 1 of 1​
Applicability All ASA Flight Attendants
Purpose​
The purpose of this Informational Bulletin is to inform all Flight Attendants about dates a
mandatory doctor’s note/documentation will be required during the Holiday Season.

Synopsis​
Flight Attendants will be required to submit documentation for any absence, sick or
miscellaneous, from Tuesday
November 21, 2005 through Tuesday January 3, 2006.

Effective
Date​
November 21, 2005

Action
Required​
Flight Attendants must submit a doctor’s note/documentation to their Inflight Supervisor upon
returning to work. Flight Attendants, who fail to submit documentation, may be required to do
so for each absence for a period of six (6) months.​
Contact​
Direct any questions regarding this bulletin to an Inflight Supervisor.


Nothing like make the people that serve your customers mad?????

What does say Dec. 10th have to do with anything?????

Get a Life EVA!!!!!

 

FL000

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Sounds like there might be a lot of holiday sick calls, but not very many for the following 6 months.
 

atrdriver

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Just another example of management treating us like children. They still, after all this time, figured out that if we were treated with respect as professionals that their business would improve beyond measure.
 

EMB170Pilot

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After the fiasco last year, who could blame them. My 1st month in the airline world and I laughed during December and thought, Wow is this what December is like every year? Good times...Good times
 
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atlcrashpad

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Typical Management style

This happened to me in another life: I worked as a Police Officer and the Chief was tired of officers calling in sick. He sent out a memo stateing that any officer calling in sick, regardless of time out, must see a Doctor and bring documentation. One of our officer's wife worked for our health insurer BC/BS. She passed the memo up her chain and the out come was BC/BS threatened to drop the cities health coverage due to the cities burden of "needless expense". Requiring employees to see doctors for minor illnesses was expensive and wasteful. The memo was recinded and policy was set at three or more days in a row would be surpervisors call on documentation. The Chief never said another word about it. I believe the cities mayor reamed him out too.

Maybe someone from United Health needs a copy of that memo. I personally think it would serve management right to get it shoved down their throats.
 

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There's also the employee's right to privacy. The company has no right to know what Doctors you go to or what they treat you for. We had a similar policy at my previous employer as well. Everyone established "working" relationships with a doctor who sympathized with our situation. It was pretty easy to get a note for the teacher.

Anybody think this is in response to the un-announcment about the new travel benefits?
 

Turtlesfly

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Well it could be worse . . . when I flew for Colgan the pilots had to provide a doctor's note for every sick call - absolutely any day of any year. That's right - Sunday night - anytime it didn't matter. They kept track, too - I'd get a call later saying they were still waiting for my fax. :bawling: :smash:
 

jehtplane

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scarlet said:
Doctor’s Note/Documentation Required​


Issue Date: 11/08/05​

Exp. Date: 02/08/06
INFORMATIONAL BULLETIN


FIB-49-05 Page 1 of 1​


Applicability All ASA Flight Attendants​

Purpose
The purpose of this Informational Bulletin is to inform all Flight Attendants about dates a
mandatory doctor’s note/documentation will be required during the Holiday Season.



Synopsis​
Flight Attendants will be required to submit documentation for any absence, sick or
miscellaneous, from Tuesday
November 21, 2005 through Tuesday January 3, 2006.


Effective​

Date
November 21, 2005


Action​

Required


Flight Attendants must submit a doctor’s note/documentation to their Inflight Supervisor upon
returning to work. Flight Attendants, who fail to submit documentation, may be required to do
so for each absence for a period of six (6) months.


Contact​
Direct any questions regarding this bulletin to an Inflight Supervisor.


Nothing like make the people that serve your customers mad?????

What does say Dec. 10th have to do with anything?????

Get a Life EVA!!!!!





They do this every year, usually it is just for the week of thanksgiving and xmas
 

scarlet

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I would not care if the PAs at ASA start to suck--just say what you have to and that is it!!!! Yeah I may send it to United Healthcare--I am sure they will love paying out alot of money for a little cold....

I am sure if you work at the G.O. you have to bring a note in....YEAH RIGHT!!!

Brian Laqb. WE all call on you to fire Eva--She is worthless!!!! and I think she is nexted to go...the f/as don't even respect her!!! Great leadership then...
 

701EV

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Puck,

You are soooo right. I want to know when she is going to get her walking papers?

We have an F/O that is a MD, maybe he would right a note for our F/A's.

701EV
 

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These are the mgt. people of ASA that need to go.

Get a life, learn how to treat people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not the way, quit PO the crews, it hurts ASA.
 

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Sounds like a phone call or email to ASA's P.O.I. may change the sick call policy. I'm sure the FAA would not look kindly on aircrews being coerced to fly sick.
 

Phony Marconi

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This is illegal

It doesn't mean they can't try to intimidate the FA's, and fight each battle as it comes.

But they'll lose if it ever comes to a lawsuit.

2 reasons:

1) The definition "sick" for the purpose of missing work does not necessarily require a visit to a doctor. By forcing an employee to visit a doctor for, say, a common cold or diarrhea, when they would otherwise choose not to see a doctor, is a form of harrassment. It further places a burden of time and expense on the employee which they would otherwise not incur.

2) The FAA definition of "fitness for duty" does not necessarily require medical certification. So, by forcing an employee to seek this "medical approval" is an implied coercion to fly with a condition which the FAA would consider "self-certifying."

I hope someone has the balls/ovaries to sue for this. They'd win. Probably alot of money. The burden is on the Company to prove the employee feigned illness, not the converse.
 

Tomct

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:beer:Maybe we should ALL call in sick over the HOLIDAYS! Might get their A$$e$ back to the negotiations table! Same CRAP, Different Owner! Skywst mgmnt better WAKE UP or the Hornets Nest is going to EXPLODE!!!:uzi:
 

Phony Marconi

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Be careful!

The American Airlines pilots tried a massive sick-out a few years ago, and lost a huge-azz lawsuit because management proved it was an organized job action.

Something needs to be done, but it needs to be legal. I can think of lots of things.....can't you?
 
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