ASA LOST 216,000 bags in 2005!!!

[ArcticFlier]

Is the horse dead yet? Geez.

Nope it's still kicking.....................


AF

 

[ifly4food]

Nope it's still kicking.....................


AF

Then go to the main regionals page and read my announcement.

 

[blzr]

Dude, That is 591.78 bags a day?

 

[MachPi]

Just testing how "banned" ifly4food's bans are now that he's not a moderator. If you see this post, the answer is: not very.

 

[ifly4food]

Just testing how "banned" ifly4food's bans are now that he's not a moderator. If you see this post, the answer is: not very.

That's because I unbanned you and everyone else. Check your PMs.

 

[ifly4food]

BTW Mr. ifly4food,

Given what you had to say about Neil Boortz, it sounds like you have some issues you need to deal with. You're allowed to spout opinion as fact, but no one (General Lee) else is?

Unlike Boortz, I don't get paid for my opinion. Neither do you nor "The General"

 

[MachPi]

That's because I unbanned you and everyone else.

'and everyone else?' Wow. You must have been busy as a beaver the last day or two. Well, good luck to you in your future endeavors.

 

[Dangerkitty]

If you think the ASA RJ routes are a financial drag, then how do you explain Skywest's profits nearly doubling since buying ASA?

Becuase Skywest and ASA operate under a fee for departure revenue model. You could fly without one single passenger at all and still make money becuase you are paid from Delta to fly the routes.

Thats one of the many reasons why mainline pilots are none to happy about RJ's being a financial drag on their carriers.

RJ'S CANNOT MAKE MONEY! Why that is an insult to you is beyond me. And when the General makes statements such as this you get your panties in a wad and ban him under the guise of "hijacking threads"

No where in the rules that UAL78 came out with does it state that hijacking threads is an offense that one will be banned for. I guess you missed that meeting. Face it punk, you couldn't debate the General on an intellectual level so you banned him. Pretty pathetic is you ask me.

 

[ifly4food]

Becuase Skywest and ASA operate under a fee for departure revenue model. You could fly without one single passenger at all and still make money becuase you are paid from Delta to fly the routes.

Thats one of the many reasons why mainline pilots are none to happy about RJ's being a financial drag on their carriers.

RJ'S CANNOT MAKE MONEY! Why that is an insult to you is beyond me. And when the General makes statements such as this you get your panties in a wad and ban him under the guise of "hijacking threads"

No where in the rules that UAL78 came out with does it state that hijacking threads is an offense that one will be banned for. I guess you missed that meeting. Face it punk, you couldn't debate the General on an intellectual level so you banned him. Pretty pathetic is you ask me.

It seems to me that if DAL entered into a fee-for departure agreement that hurt their bottom line, that isn't the fault of the company flying RJs. Give me another one.

 

[ArcticFlier]

Unlike Boortz, I don't get paid for my opinion. Neither do you nor "The General"

Take a closer look at your quote about Boortz. Your "opinion" is that he's a doofus, and you're okay with calling him that (as am I, by the way. You're entitled to your opinion). GL calls those of us in the Regional industry "commuter" pilots, and you get your thong jammed up your ass. You can claim it was about hijacking threads or whatever, but it's you yourself that said that you banned him because he called you a "commuter" pilot.

See, it's inflammatory comments like that... "commuter"?

I CAN make you go away. Consider it during your week off for flambait.

the general got a week off for being a prick. This is a discussion forum, not a "commuter" pilots suck forum.

This IS a dictatorship.

I know, I know.........there was some stuff in there about RJ's and RJ pilots as well, but what got your undies wadded was the "commuter" comment.


Lighten up a bit. You don't have to agree with everything that GL (or anyone else says) but have an intelligent debate. Don't act like a child who can't play the game his way, so he takes the ball and goes home.


AF

 

[ifly4food]

Becuase Skywest and ASA operate under a fee for departure revenue model. You could fly without one single passenger at all and still make money becuase you are paid from Delta to fly the routes.

Thats one of the many reasons why mainline pilots are none to happy about RJ's being a financial drag on their carriers.

RJ'S CANNOT MAKE MONEY! Why that is an insult to you is beyond me. And when the General makes statements such as this you get your panties in a wad and ban him under the guise of "hijacking threads"

No where in the rules that UAL78 came out with does it state that hijacking threads is an offense that one will be banned for. I guess you missed that meeting. Face it punk, you couldn't debate the General on an intellectual level so you banned him. Pretty pathetic is you ask me.

You sure are a big man hiding behind a computer screen calling me a punk. I doubt you would be saying that to my face. Care to meet and have a civil discussion? let me know.

Moderator reviewed. Rather immature, but it stays.

 

[Dangerkitty]

It seems to me that if DAL entered into a fee-for departure agreement that hurt their bottom line, that isn't the fault of the company flying RJs. Give me another one, punk.

I never said it was the fault of the company flying the RJ's. Can you show me where I ever said that? Furthermore, they already are in a fee for departure revenue model with their SJP's. Do you have any freaking clue how ASA operates?

ASA, Skywest, and Comair have all been in fee for departure agreements with DAL for many many years. Why do you think DAL is putting pressure on the SJP to get costs down? For someone who comes on here acting like they know what they are talking about you sure are clueless.

 

[Dangerkitty]

You sure are a big man hiding behind a computer screen calling me a punk. I doubt you would be saying that to my face. Care to meet and have a civil discussion? let me know.

Why did you edit your post there IFFF? Before you were challenging me to a fight in the crew room and threatening me with violence.

Sure I will meet you anytime anyplace. I dont really know what you are going to want to talk about. Are you asking me out or something?

 

[anon]

You sure are a big man hiding behind a computer screen calling me a punk. I doubt you would be saying that to my face. Care to meet and have a civil discussion? let me know.

IFFF, If I read this right, you are threatening someone.


To be blunt -


ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND!

I have no idea what kind of stress you're under right now, but you need some help in a bad way.

I see you have already resigned as a moderator. Now you need to take a break from this forum for a while until you compose yourself.

Seriously, It's just a job. Get over it.

 

[Halo_RJdriver]

who dat?

Becuase Skywest and ASA operate under a fee for departure revenue model. You could fly without one single passenger at all and still make money becuase you are paid from Delta to fly the routes.

Thats one of the many reasons why mainline pilots are none to happy about RJ's being a financial drag on their carriers.

RJ'S CANNOT MAKE MONEY! Why that is an insult to you is beyond me. And when the General makes statements such as this you get your panties in a wad and ban him under the guise of "hijacking threads"

No where in the rules that UAL78 came out with does it state that hijacking threads is an offense that one will be banned for. I guess you missed that meeting. Face it punk, you couldn't debate the General on an intellectual level so you banned him. Pretty pathetic is you ask me.

general flea bag is constantly debating himself. Half the time anyone asks that skinny flyer a question he answers it with a question that amounts to no skill on his part. "i will debate you" and then pronounces himself the winner. Weak and insulated comments but he is entertaining and that is about it.

That is great that RJ's can't make money. It isn't the regional level that has the problem. Mainline brains that can't figure out how to turn a profit is the problem. The RJ demand was created by mainline. Until they structure a company with a viable game plan then good luck staying in business. Time will tell who goes under first. Place your bets.

 

[Dangerkitty]

general flea bag is constantly debating himself. Half the time anyone asks that skinny flyer a question he answers it with a question that amounts to no skill on his part. "i will debate you" and then pronounces himself the winner. Weak and insulated comments but he is entertaining and that is about it.

That is great that RJ's can't make money. It isn't the regional level that has the problem. Mainline brains that can't figure out how to turn a profit is the problem. The RJ demand was created by mainline. Until they structure a company with a viable game plan then good luck staying in business. Time will tell who goes under first. Place your bets.

Halo,

I flew a RJ for almost 2 years. I have nothing against RJ's pilots. However, the RJ has been shown to be a financial burden to mainline carriers that are already drowning in red ink. Case in point: Airtran tried the RJ experiment briefly and realized that is wasn't going to work. The cost per seat mile is just too expensive.

I agree that the RJ carriers are not to blame for this mess. The blame should lay on Mainline execs who couldn't Manage their way out of a paperbag. My point is this; I can understand the General's frustration with the SJP's and the effect it is having on Delta. Quite frankly I rarely read what he posts though since I have left the airline arena since being furloughed from American.

We can debate all day long if the General is correct or not in his views. Just like you stated "Place your bets" HOWEVER, I have a hard time with a Moderator or "ex-Moderator" banning someone just because he got his feelings hurt and couldn't beat the opposing views with superior intellect and reasoning. Instead he tries to ban the General to make the problems go away.

Then I chime in and he challenges me to fisticuffs in the ASA crew room. Real classy.

I just all mainline unions would have had just a little forward thinking in the mid-90's and made single seniority lists for mainline and regional carriers. Then these petty arguments wouldn't even be coming up.

DK

 

[General Lee]

general flea bag is constantly debating himself. Half the time anyone asks that skinny flyer a question he answers it with a question that amounts to no skill on his part. "i will debate you" and then pronounces himself the winner. Weak and insulated comments but he is entertaining and that is about it.

That is great that RJ's can't make money. It isn't the regional level that has the problem. Mainline brains that can't figure out how to turn a profit is the problem. The RJ demand was created by mainline. Until they structure a company with a viable game plan then good luck staying in business. Time will tell who goes under first. Place your bets.

Say what? I am debating myself? Ooops, you're right, I always answer a question with a question. Why is that? You still get mad when I come up with a logical response, and that happens most of the time. You then resort to name calling, and you look foolish. That isn't nice. And, the problem with RJs is that they cannot make money up against a LCC mainline sized aircraft. Since the LCCs are growing, we have to put those RJs on routes that could have higher yeilds or routes that are exploratory, like the new CR7 routes to Aguadilla and Ponce. If you place 5 daily SkyWest RJs from DEN to SLC against 5 F9 A319s, 4 Southwest 737s, and 6 United 733s/A319s---YOU WILL LOSE. Who's fault is that? That is the Mainline route planner's. But, the proliferation of RJs has now clogged the system with inefficient airplanes that cannot bring in enough revenue to pay for the "SkyWest Insulation." It isn't your fault as a pilot, it is your companies drag on our revenue creation that is. And, our management guys will get new stock eventually and gain $$$$Millions.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[737 Pylt]

Halo,

Then I chime in and he challenges me to fisticuffs in the ASA crew room. Real classy.

DK

You should have met him OUTSIDE company property and knocked him on his ass!
737

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Congrats on the equip change!! Like it?

 

[328dude]

You sure are a big man hiding behind a computer screen calling me a punk. I doubt you would be saying that to my face. Care to meet and have a civil discussion? let me know.

Nice...What are you, twelve?

 

[Palerider957]

I have to jump in here a bit. I cannot count the number of times when a Delta tug pulls up after we have either started to push or taxi (ATR days) and signal how many bags he has. If I have already turned in the paper work, closed the door, pushed and started, sorry, no more bags. They should have been already onboard. Had one of the Delta actally pull in front of me as I taxied out of 28 with both running. As I shook my head when he signaled 8 bags he gave the dual-handed single finger salute, mouthed "motherfcker" to me and continued to block us for almost a minute as he played with his little computer on the tug.

Sorry General, I have to point a finger here, and it is not at us. I agree some is our fault, but not all.

This EXACT story has been repeated MANY times at ASA. I gave the Delta tug a$$hole the same salute back....besides setting the break would have meant putting the cup of Starbuck's down.

 

[Palerider957]

You should have met him OUTSIDE company property and knocked him on his ass!
737

Fights in the ASA crew room are not unprecendented. The ramp also had it's share of boyz in da hood action.

 

[Dangerkitty]

You sure are a big man hiding behind a computer screen calling me a punk. I doubt you would be saying that to my face. Care to meet and have a civil discussion? let me know.

Still waiting to see when you want to have your "Civil Discussion"
Cat got your tongue?

 

[Huck]

The ramp also had it's share of boyz in da hood action.

Does captain "Yvander Beattyfield" still work there? He took on a cabin cleaner one night....

 

[e120pilot]

ifly4food,

Your behavior is not what I'd expect from a member of our MEC. Grow up!

 

[737 Pylt]

ifly4food,

Your behavior is not what I'd expect from a member of our MEC. Grow up!

Or a moderator!
737

 

[dash8driver]

boy for a website that is so gun shy to lawsuits they sure are letting it go here by allowing people to make threats and then continue on to make arrangements to do whatever it is will be done.

time and place? high noon in the town square! bring yer six shooter, ya yeller belly!




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[Dangerkitty]

IFFF,

You are a punk as well as a freaking moron.

First of all, you ban one of the longest members of flightinfo because you got your feelings hurt by what he called you.

Then when you are called out on it you come back with a pathetic half baked apology which was pathetic in itself.

THEN, when I state the obvious your challenge me to a fight in the ASA crew room.

I wonder if the management at ASA and the ATL Chief Pilots in particular realize that one of their pilots is threatening someone else on a PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARD. You have threatened me with physical assualt on a PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARD.

Are you an idiot? Do you have any idea what could happen because of the statements you have made?

If I were you I suggest you get in touch with the Moderators ASAP and get this thread pulled.

I really thought that when I made the statement "Cat got your tongue?" you would come back on here and state that you had gotten a little worked up and a least offer some sort of apology. I guess I was wrong.

You are a pathetic little cry baby. You aren't worth the effort.

 

[enuffalready]

IFFF,


I wonder if the management at ASA and the ATL Chief Pilots in particular realize that one of their pilots is threatening someone else on a PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARD. You have threatened me with physical assualt on a PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARD.

Are you an idiot? Do you have any idea what could happen because of the statements you have made?

If I were you I suggest you get in touch with the Moderators ASAP and get this thread pulled.

I really thought that when I made the statement "Cat got your tongue?" you would come back on here and state that you had gotten a little worked up and a least offer some sort of apology. I guess I was wrong.

You are a pathetic little cry baby. You aren't worth the effort.

why don't you make a citizens arrest...

waaaah... why don't you just go tell his parents what he did .... maybe they'll ground him...and then you'll have the sandbox and all the toys for yourself.....

 

[ASADFW7]

I work at ASA and ifff is setting a bad example, as well as a reflection of our ALPA pilots. Please do not think we are as professional as this chap. I do not speak for him or let our LEC speak for me anymore until he is replaced.