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If it is the chic I think you are talking about...she had some type of OJI. Tug jerked the airplane and hurt her neck. Anyway, as part of the OJI...anytime her neck is hurting ;) she can call in sick. Since it is associated with the OJI... no occurrence.

I don't think money is an issue with her either. If it is the same person...


Brilliant, I say! I am so waiting on the day the tub driver hurts my neck.
 
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chronic fatigue does indeed weaken the immune system-there was a link I think on OSHA about mold and mildew in the workplace
 
COOPERVANE said:
I think I'm gonna get a few test kits, send em to a lab and then sue Bombardier and ASA for contracting mesothelioma, ulcerative colitus, and crohn's disease.

I'll be a millionare!! Anybody else?
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Think ASA has a million dollars laying around? Doubtful...
 
ugasucks said:
Watch out for those letters in your file. It cost a few people jobs at Delta when they were hiring last time. Need to get that fixed. If ur sick ur sick and u shouldn't be punished!
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Those letters cannot be released under the PRIA. The law only covers checkride performance and such. If any of that stuff is finding its way over there-someone could be in real big trouble. DAL knows better
 
crj567 said:
Those letters cannot be released under the PRIA. The law only covers checkride performance and such. If any of that stuff is finding its way over there-someone could be in real big trouble. DAL knows better
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Wrong! They simply present you with an agreement for signing that waives all your rights to the normal protections. If you don't sign, you don't interview and of course don't get hired.
 
crj567 said:
Those letters cannot be released under the PRIA. The law only covers checkride performance and such. If any of that stuff is finding its way over there-someone could be in real big trouble. DAL knows better
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Wrong on another account.

The whole reason they issue a pilot's first suspension concurrent with his days off is so it will be on his record. (yes they actually suspend pilots on their days off) When a future employer inquires, they are allowed to say yes or no as to whether a pilot has ever been disciplined for violation of company policy.
 
CFI2766 said:
Think ASA has a million dollars laying around? Doubtful...
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It concerns me that someone actually thinks this is the case. Even the Kool-Aid the company is passing around doesn't involve us being short on cash. Where you got this idea beats me.
 
To be honest, this is a whole lot of "Much Ado About Nothing"....

If you are calling in sick and going on vacation, or simply aren't sick- you've got something to worry about. Nothing more, nothing less.

However, if you are legitimately sick, and you cannot work due to mold, alien abduction, or whatever, then you've got NOTHING to worry about. ASA isn't terminating people who are sick, they're not even harassing them. They're simply wanting to verify that you aren't abusing the system that is in place. If you're sick, your sick- no big deal, and no one cares................ including the CPO.

FWIW- I've been suck a multitude of times this year, and got a letter. I explained myself, and that was the end of it- no letters in a file, no signature required, no punative letter.......... it was just done. To be honest, the first minute was explaining my illnesses, and the rest of the meeting was discussing cars............
 
FWIW- I've been suck a multitude of times this year, and got a letter. I explained myself, and that was the end of it- no letters in a file, no signature required, no punative letter.......... it was just done. To be honest, the first minute was explaining my illnesses, and the rest of the meeting was discussing cars............[/QUOTE]

Dude, thats great but we don't care how many times it's been this year,or whether you got a letter from her or not!
Thats your buisness!
 
Jack-O-Lantern said:
FWIW- I've been suck a multitude of times this year, and got a letter. I explained myself, and that was the end of it- no letters in a file, no signature required, no punative letter.......... it was just done. To be honest, the first minute was explaining my illnesses, and the rest of the meeting was discussing cars............
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Dude, thats great but we don't care how many times it's been this year,or whether you got a letter from her or not!
Thats your buisness![/QUOTE]

.................................Oh, ok. Glad you cleared that up.
 
Brads just gettin' warmed up!
PBR
 
Thread disclaimer:
Let it be known that while ASA has its issues, an overwhelming majority of ASA pilots believe ASA is a good place to work that has gotten remarkably better since Skywest Inc took over.
 
777forever said:
Thread disclaimer:
Let it be known that while ASA has its issues, an overwhelming majority of ASA pilots believe ASA is a good place to work that has gotten remarkably better since Skywest Inc took over.
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I think that is the general consensus even in this thread. There are worse places to work, but things appear to be moving backwards as of late. Maybe its just the cpo or maybe its flightops. RSV 200 ATL is rough and the company refuses to mitigate the problem. They are rolling in cash but wont raise line values to a reasonable level, allowing relief to RSVs and a bit more dough to lineholders.
 
Abernathy said:
It concerns me that someone actually thinks this is the case. Even the Kool-Aid the company is passing around doesn't involve us being short on cash. Where you got this idea beats me.
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Clearly, my sarcasm needs work. Kinda thought that one was softly delivered when I reread; my apologies. I've a feeling that ASA is more than adequately funded, especially in light of starting a new venture in SE Asia.


Possibly, just possibly, this 'crackdown' is the work of a misguided individual seeking to fill a void in the CP office. The timing is, well, odd.
 
CFI2766 said:
Possibly, just possibly, this 'crackdown' is the work of a misguided individual seeking to fill a void in the CP office. The timing is, well, odd.
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What purpose would a crackdown serve?
 
Abernathy said:
I think that is the general consensus even in this thread. There are worse places to work, but things appear to be moving backwards as of late. Maybe its just the cpo or maybe its flightops. RSV 200 ATL is rough and the company refuses to mitigate the problem. They are rolling in cash but wont raise line values to a reasonable level, allowing relief to RSVs and a bit more dough to lineholders.
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I definitely see that the ATL RSVs are getting the beat down. But us IAD guys, especially the ones that commute to reserve, are begging for flighttime and just not getting it.

IMO, the company will continue refusing to mitigate the problem until our block hrs increase. They are saving ALOT of money by keeping line values low, red arrowing the heck out of the month, and having reserves fly the open-time. Basically capping the amount of flying the more expensive senior pilots can do and letting cheaper junior reserves fly more.

I doubt they will increase line values until nearly all reserves meet or exceed 75 hrs. I heard one of Brad's pet peeves are under utilized reserves. Pay them 75 so fly them 75 I guess.

CFI2766 said:
Possibly, just possibly, this 'crackdown' is the work of a misguided individual seeking to fill a void in the CP office. The timing is, well, odd.
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You talking about current ACP RC?

ASApuppy said:
Don't get used to it. You will be moving backward after a month or two as the numbers you moved up are from pilots who volunteered for the LOSA observations.
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In the April Seniority Report it stated 7 resignations
 
777forever said:
I definitely see that the ATL RSVs are getting the beat down. But us IAD guys, especially the ones that commute to reserve, are begging for flighttime and just not getting it.

IMO, the company will continue refusing to mitigate the problem until our block hrs increase. They are saving ALOT of money by keeping line values low, red arrowing the heck out of the month, and having reserves fly the open-time. Basically capping the amount of flying the more expensive senior pilots can do and letting cheaper junior reserves fly more.

I doubt they will increase line values until nearly all reserves meet or exceed 75 hrs. I heard one of Brad's pet peeves are under utilized reserves. Pay them 75 so fly them 75 I guess.



You talking about current ACP RC?



In the April Seniority Report it stated 7 resignations
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I hope like hell that "RC" doesn't end up as ATL chief pilot. That guy is already on some kind of serious power trip....and he just got there.

He is definitely not somebody that is gonna have the pilots back.
 

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