ASA future with Skywest

[Tarzan]

Let me get this straight....SkyWest bought ASA for $425 Million, has made its money back ALREADY and then some, but we're "screwed." RIGHT NOW THE WORLD IS ON THE EDGE OF A DEPRESSION. We are riding out a nasty storm. Militant gets you as far as Comair. I don't think that's the right play in this day and age. The best you can do is get people from A to B safely, on time, and hopefully with a smile. Doom and gloomers are all over the place and they haven't been right yet. But keep on keepin' on. I don't think or believe as you do. We are going through something right now we have never seen the likes before. Things will eventually turn around.

Trojan

Trojan,
Could not agree with you more. The militant part had me blinking my eyes when it first was put out there. When you have a company that actively seeks to make the employee group happy (PERF PLUS checks even though we missed the numbers), that last thing we need to do is GET MILITANT! We have enough of those guys as it is and they are miserable to be around.

 

[johnpeace]

Also, had your side won, there would have been much more furloughs because you never would have negotiated a no furlough clause.

Dang! You hit the nail on the head![/QUOTE]

Only if you neglect to consider that had his side won, our total labor costs would be lower...resulting in the need for fewer furloughs.

 

[Abernathy]

Dang! You hit the nail on the head!

Only if you neglect to consider that had his side won, our total labor costs would be lower...resulting in the need for fewer furloughs.

You know if we paid $5.00/hr we could keep labor costs even lower and have all the shiny 900s we want!!

 

[DirtySowf]

Is there any way ASA can just furlough all non-commuters. I need to pick up some open time to pay for new jean shorts.

 

[SSDD]

Well, is ASA the first carrier that Skywest has purchased? Was there any seniority integration? I'll give you a hint if you really need one.

Ok I'll bite. How many carriers has Skywest bought, and what was the result of the integratio, if any?

 

[johnpeace]

You know if we paid $5.00/hr we could keep labor costs even lower and have all the shiny 900s we want!!

Hey, you're right.

The obvious right thing to do is to just negotiate the absolute highest wage for everyone that we possibly can.

Nevermind the potential to price ourselves right out of our jobs.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Hey, you're right.

The obvious right thing to do is to just negotiate the absolute highest wage for everyone that we possibly can.

Nevermind the potential to price ourselves right out of our jobs.

It's hard to convince the die hard union hardliners.....The union will save them!

 

[outtahere]

So you guys really believe that a two dollar per hour difference between us and some other dci carrier makes us that much more expensive? Hell, skywest makes the same if not more than us in total compensation. Please explain how it's the pilot groups pay that makes us so much more expensive. What's the point of working if you can't make a living?

 

[Tarzan]

So you guys really believe that a two dollar per hour difference between us and some other dci carrier makes us that much more expensive? Hell, skywest makes the same if not more than us in total compensation. Please explain how it's the pilot groups pay that makes us so much more expensive. What's the point of working if you can't make a living?

At risk of sounding like a union hater, I'll toss this one out there...

One thing the SkyWest management does not have to contend with with is the cost of dealing with a union. Grievance processes can be expensive and drawn out. Instead the union chooses to defend the indefensible (360 on the arrival?) and cost the company more money that could be going to the shareholders or to lower costs to make it more attractive to other potential customers.

 

[sweptback]

Only if you neglect to consider that had his side won, our total labor costs would be lower...resulting in the need for fewer furloughs.

Labor costs have as much to do with the longevity of the pilot group as the pay rate. The "Jackson 5" winning would not have changed the longevity of pilots one bit.

Why do you think SkyWest is a cheaper operator than ASA? It's not the payrates, they're almost identical. SkyWest is a much more junior airline, and there's nothing ASA can do to fix that other than grow, which isn't an option now.

 

[Speedtape]

At risk of sounding like a union hater, I'll toss this one out there...

One thing the SkyWest management does not have to contend with with is the cost of dealing with a union. Grievance processes can be expensive and drawn out. Instead the union chooses to defend the indefensible (360 on the arrival?) and cost the company more money that could be going to the shareholders or to lower costs to make it more attractive to other potential customers.

PM me your address. I have a Skywest application I will mail to you.

 

[Speedtape]

It's hard to convince the die hard union hardliners.....The union will save them!

Maybe you should run for office, and if elected (don't think so), shirk your duties and never participate in protest, like that other guy did once from the RJDC. uke:

 

[Tarzan]

PM me your address. I have a Skywest application I will mail to you.

If Skywest was hiring and if I was able to keep my original date of hire, I'd be on it.

 

[JoeMerchant]

If Skywest was hiring and if I was able to keep my original date of hire, I'd be on it.

Ditto!

 

[JoeMerchant]

Maybe you should run for office, and if elected (don't think so), shirk your duties and never participate in protest, like that other guy did once from the RJDC. uke:

Actually there is a group trying to recruit me to run....The RJDC is to this day, protecting us more than our own MEC.....

You are a smart guy....why you continue to cling to the current way of doing things and the current way we are represented is beyond me....