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ASA early out numbers?

SNAFU_AIR

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Anyone have any info on how many pilots (if any) will be taking the early out/retirement package being offered?
 

twott driver

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3-4? Would be surprised if it's any more. Long term coma's is another story, but apparently they are not taking those into account for displacement mitigation. Don't see why not
 

WWEfan

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Yeah, 30 weeks of severence pay wasn't enough to get many people to bite. That only works out to about $75k for the most senior pilots. Considering we don't have anyone retiring for 3 more years they stand to lose quite a bit by leaving early.
 

HoserASA

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Hearing about 3-4 taking the early retirement. 36K for 20 years nowhere near enough for me. Maybe more like 200K would do it! Rightttttttttttttt!

Hoser
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sunlitpath

5 months of pay for doing no work is a great deal, particulary for guys near 60. These guys can draw on 401k at that age. I have heard 6 or 7 have requested forms. Not everyone lives check to check. I suspect may of these older ASA pilots are financially secure and are ready to get the flock out...
 

crj567

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5 months of pay for doing no work is a great deal, particulary for guys near 60. These guys can draw on 401k at that age. I have heard 6 or 7 have requested forms. Not everyone lives check to check. I suspect may of these older ASA pilots are financially secure and are ready to get the flock out...


Apparently, you are unfamiliar with the pay rates....
 

Flybywire44

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CT told me his paper work is in along with 4 other pilots. M McClain said that no one had submitted paper work to the CPO as of yesterday. We'll see. I figured Capt CT would know what he did. They can change their minds until the 14th.
 
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sunlitpath

2 pilots have already submitted paper work. That is why everyone moved up on the award projection today. I suspect 10 or more will take the offer. ASA pilots are very fortunate to have such an offer in this stagnant economy. I know of no other regionals offering any type of early retirement incentive. Some of these older guys have marginal health, or other lifestyle considerations. They have been dreaming of fly fishing or ranching for the past 10 years. They can't wait to get away from whiny, self centered, hair gel pilots, whose mommies pack them peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for their 4 day trips. By way, who the hell is M. McMclain?
 

Abernathy

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2 pilots have already submitted paper work. That is why everyone moved up on the award projection today. I suspect 10 or more will take the offer. ASA pilots are very fortunate to have such an offer in this stagnant economy. I know of no other regionals offering any type of early retirement incentive. Some of these older guys have marginal health, or other lifestyle considerations. They have been dreaming of fly fishing or ranching for the past 10 years. They can't wait to get away from whiny, self centered, hair gel pilots, whose mommies pack them peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for their 4 day trips. By way, who the hell is M. McMclain?

Fortunate? They aren't doing it for OUR good. They're doing it because any idiot knows that it's cheaper to pay these guys 3 months pay than another 100K a year for the next 5 years. Any flying they would have done would be replaced by underblock reserves so the company would be winning big.
 

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Yes, fortunate. Very fortunate. Because age 60 was the retirement age for the last million years. Therefore, any forward thinking and well prepared pilot over age 60 right now should be well positioned for retirement. This is free money for all those well worn, tired individuals who would like to enjoy the rest of their time on earth doing something more worthwhile than driving into ATL for Planet of the Apes reruns. Many of the pilots who take early retirement were prepared to retire one or two years ago. They don't have to work. I salute those who had the foresight and wisdom to accept this obvious eventuality..

Dude, what the hell does that mean?
 

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It looked like a bunch of monkeys trying to frack a football out there today!
 
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sunlitpath

Yes, fortunate. Very fortunate. Because age 60 was the retirement age for the last million years. Therefore, any forward thinking and well prepared pilot over age 60 right now should be well positioned for retirement. This is free money for all those well worn, tired individuals who would like to enjoy the rest of their time on earth doing something more worthwhile. Many of the pilots who take early retirement were prepared to retire one or two years ago. They don't have to work. I salute those who had the foresight and wisdom to accept this obvious eventuality..
 

crj567

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Ya, I am unfamiliar. I just work there you stupid idiot...

Well, that kinda leads back to my point.... How the hell do you get "financially secure" on such a generous salary?
 

crj567

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Dude, what the hell does that mean?

Awwww........ Widddlllle Bitttyy Babyyyy all offended?


-Let me go and get your "blankie..." Mommy and I will give you a big hug, some warm milk, and you will feel so much better! Everything will be all "sunshine and smiles" by the time you wake up tomorrow (after crying yourself to sleep tonight.)

-If the going is too rough here, I'll bet Disney has an aviation forum somewhere.
 

Abernathy

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Awwww........ Widddlllle Bitttyy Babyyyy all offended?


-Let me go and get your "blankie..." Mommy and I will give you a big hug, some warm milk, and you will feel so much better! Everything will be all "sunshine and smiles" by the time you wake up tomorrow (after crying yourself to sleep tonight.)

-If the going is too rough here, I'll bet Disney has an aviation forum somewhere.

some of you need to learn to grow up.
 

CaribPilot

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some of you need to learn to grow up.

Not going to happen, flight info makes that guy cream his pants. This is an escape from the real world where he is a ginormous loser, even our ugly flight attendants cant stand him.
 

crj567

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Not going to happen, flight info makes that guy cream his pants. This is an escape from the real world where he is a ginormous loser, even our ugly flight attendants cant stand him.

OMG!

I am so OFFENDED now! I am gonna go and find my mommy!
-WAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
 

Tarzan

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Not going to happen, flight info makes that guy cream his pants. This is an escape from the real world where he is a ginormous loser, even our ugly flight attendants cant stand him.

Not much of a flamebaiter either.
 
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