ASA CS ExpressJet meltdown

[spudskier]

fyfayd !!!!!!!

I laughed

 

[JettBoii]

Brad just apologized and promised he would make it all better. SOS

 

[Freebrd]

Maybe BH just can't handle this? There's always that SKYW position waiting for him, so he has that going for him. Remember, it's not how we got here......

 

[shamrock]

As someone suggested back before the OurASA comment section was shut down, maybe we should stop calling them "challenges" and refer to them as what they really are, choices...

 

[JettBoii]

His company memos read exactly the same time after time. We are sorry. Oops. We will do better. Here's another stellar job from captain so and so with hs f/o and one of our shining aisle donkeys. Blah blah blah

 

[Abernathy]

His company memos read exactly the same time after time. We are sorry. Oops. We will do better. Here's another stellar job from captain so and so with hs f/o and one of our shining aisle donkeys. Blah blah blah

I know; those e-mails were getting old 3 years ago.

Now they're just nauseating.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Heard flight control had an IT meltdown today...guys and gals calling FSS to file

 

[JoeMerchant]

Heard flight control had an IT meltdown today...guys and gals calling FSS to file

Did that all the time on the Bandit in DFW...Heck I didn't even now we had a "flight control"....It was nice....

 

[GAcfi]

Wx-brief

You are correct. Called Lockheed-Martin FSS and filed to get back to ATL tonight for the end of a four day. We had previously called Dispatch when a clearance was not available. Dispatch advised us to call FSS because things "are really hectic around here right now". Talking to FSS knocked the rust off the 'ol brain on the flight plan order! We got back to ATL just in time to wait for a gate for 30 minutes, oh wait, that is probably another topic for someone. Good night.

 

[Theoden]

You are correct. Called Lockheed-Martin FSS and filed to get back to ATL tonight for the end of a four day. We had previously called Dispatch when a clearance was not available. Dispatch advised us to call FSS because things "are really hectic around here right now". Talking to FSS knocked the rust off the 'ol brain on the flight plan order! We got back to ATL just in time to wait for a gate for 30 minutes, oh wait, that is probably another topic for someone. Good night.

I'm an outsider reading about the trouble you are going through. I was wondering if these kinds of problems suddenly appeared after the acquisition or were they already there and exacerbated? Was one of the companies having operational trouble and then it spread over to the new sibling company?

At Mesaba we announced shortly after our acquisition by PNCL that the dispatchers/schedulers in our Minneapolis SOC may be offered jobs in Memphis, but indeed the MSP SOC would close down in a year or so. Funny old thing, most of those people started looking for and finding other work in MN, so then we had shortages in those positions. We started hiring aggressively for positions that we admit will be gone in Dec '11 so that the only people willing to accept them are inexperienced 'temps'. We noticed a sharp increase in mistakes made as the endless chain of temporary employees learn the ropes.

Our troubles are not bad at all, however, compared to what you guys are describing!

 

[Freebrd]

I'm an outsider reading about the trouble you are going through. I was wondering if these kinds of problems suddenly appeared after the acquisition or were they already there and exacerbated? Was one of the companies having operational trouble and then it spread over to the new sibling company?

Don't know about ExpreeJet but been like this for years, hell decades, at ASA. I think they call it inept management, whether it was G&J, DAL, or now SKYW management.

Remember it's not how we got here....

 

[blesko]

His company memos read exactly the same time after time. We are sorry. Oops. We will do better. Here's another stellar job from captain so and so with hs f/o and one of our shining aisle donkeys. Blah blah blah

Dear Brad,
Shove it!!!

Sincerely
BL

 

[dojetdriver]

Don't know about ExpreeJet but been like this for years, hell decades, at ASA. I think they call it inept management, whether it was G&J, DAL, or now SKYW management.

Remember it's not how we got here....

After the IPO spinoff from COEX up until early 2007 when the 69 airframe removal option was exercised by CAL, the management at XJT got high praise for doing such a "good job of running an airline". Although that praise really wasn't that well deserved. Because they were operating under the CAL umbrella, piggybacking EVERYTHING off of CAL, all the while on a cost+10% arrangement. The +10% was later lowered, but not too much. It's pretty easy to run a place when ALL management has to do is keep planes going from point A to B while your one and only mainline partner basically holds your hand the entire time. Take a look at SKW profit margin, or RAH's, it's nowhere near 10%.

Granted, there were some pretty tight restrictions on that old CPA as far as the completion factor to be maintained by XJT, etc. But when you're operating at that kind of a profit, with that little overhead, it's easy to run an efficient/effective operation. In the 2005 time frame, there were around 1500 departures a day under COEX. System wide, there was less than 10 MEL'd items a day fleet wide on 274 airframes. Now, it's a bit of a joke how many broke planes are being flown around.

After the 69 airplanes option and XJT was basically left to "fend for themselves" just like Jerry, the Reverened, Hulas (rims goats), Ornstein, well, they became just like every other regional airline out there. Fighting for scraps, operating cheap, and basically the same as every other cluster fukc out there.

But as the SureJet management people say, "Remember, it's not how we got here".

 

[PBRstreetgang]

How you liken' Brad now? F that dwarf, enjoy him!