ASA CR7 Jumps the shark...

[cksport]

No one injured. A true blessing, but sucks we lose three aircraft in one incident. Word has it we may be eyeballing limiting MX facilities to MCN and ATL (again).

 

[SLUF4]

here's a brief news clip about the incident
http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/24054849.html

 

[asa rat]

They were drying out the engines after doing some blade washing. Parking brake was NOT set and hydraulics were NOT on. It was a MX woman that was NOT checked out to do engine run ups. (Who the heck told her to do it I have no idea). Hit the start button, threw the thrust level up and off she went into the hangar, collecting 2 50 seaters on her way to a stop. Worst part is that she started the engine standing up in the aisle, wasnt even a person sitting in either pilot seat. 700 = totaled, 1 50 = totaled, 1 other 50 = significant damage

I wonder how that "payroll deduction" will be working for her?

 

[SilverandSore]

"Jumps the shark".

I do not think that means what you think it means.

I was gonna try to make some witty reply with it when I originally posted and then couldn't come up with anything. Forgot to take it out of the title.

 

[BoilerUP]

I was gonna try to make some witty reply with it when I originally posted and then couldn't come up with anything. Forgot to take it out of the title.

:beer:

 

[SpoilerFault]

asarat is right on.....talked to a friend of mine who still works as an ASA A&P in ATL and he heard the same story. The mech in question was standing, the throttles were either moved to TO immediately after start or had been placed in that position prior to the start sequence and away she went. Either way, stuff like this shouldn't happen! It's a miracle that nobody was killed or maimed. I know how you guys hate the 400 hr wonder pilots but we have our share of retards in maintenance obviously. It is sad but in the short decade that I've been in aviation I would say that the overall quality of mechanics has diminished. Perhaps it's due to the sh!t quality of the aviation industry as a whole. However, I find it extremely hard to work with clowns who take no pride in what they do, continually look for shortcuts, and have little common sense or mechanical aptitude! I'm by no means saying that there aren't still tons of great people in my chosen profession but the number of careless, ignorant, retards has grown rapidly. Ok....rant over.

 

[ILOVEBEER]

Hope no one is/was injured. Hearing that the hydraulics weren't on.

Hoser
Roll Tide!

How could the hydraulics be off if the engine(s) were running?

 

[BOX OFFICE]

How could the hydraulics be off if the engine(s) were running?

System 3 on the RJ is electrically operated, and it powers the brakes.

 

[AbOvo]

If the mechanic started #1 without energizing the electric hydraulic pumps for systems 2 or 3 then the only hydraulics for the brakes come from the accumulators. The inboard brakes are on 3 and outboards are on 2.

Most likely if it had been sitting for a while there wasn't much charge in the accumulators, it is also hard to step on the brakes if you are standing in the flight deck.

 

[Terry Hunter]

note to self: Do NOT start engines while standing anymore

 

[JumpersAway]

It really is crazy that they don't use a checklist-it's a 50 cent piece of paper for cryin' out loud. Sorta reminds me of a time when a crew pushed back from the gate, pulled back in for a maintenance issue, and allowed MX to work in the cockpit. Crew got back up front, started the engine, and hot started it to molten slurry- Thrust levers moved up to "Idle" by the mechanic. Pilot went to start second engine to taxi back into gate- that one hot started too because it was in "idle". Granted, it's the pilots fault for not double checking, but if MX used a checklist and it was mandatory, would it have happened? It's all about redundancy...........

 

[damnflyboy]

oh come on, 4 hours later and still no pictures.
what is this board coming to!

You're not kidding. I mean, c'mon. We had Saddam Hussein on viral video just hours after his execution...and yet nobody can produce photos through the fence of a minimum security airport?! Thats it! I'm going back to my tabloid magazine. For crying out loud!

 

[asa rat]

asarat is right on.....

Kerveball gets credit for the report, something went amiss while pasting his quote.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Bound to happen as they hire the cream of the crap in every position.

Where the pics at?

 

[Erlanger]

Details are sketchy, but congrats to the mx guy that sent the CR7 into the BTR hanger, ripping the engine off and hitting 2 50's!

That mx guy was a woman I'm told. That explains it all! She was a recent new hire too. And now a recent unhired.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Kerveball gets credit for the report, something went amiss while pasting his quote.

Dude! That like rhymed!

 

[SPDBRD747400]

Looks like Freedum get's to do some flying to take over our badly damaged airplanes...It is stressed as temporary, lets hope so!

 

[Tarzan]

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[~~~^~~~]

System 3 on the RJ is electrically operated, and it powers the brakes.

Don't give that answer in an oral.

 

[79%N1]

She started the 700's with the throttless above idle! Hit the starter, etc. When the FADEC recognized the throttle position........off to the races! Of course, standing up, no brake, no chocks, no hydraulics!

Nice job. 30+ Million in damages!

 

[maxcackel]

Freedum taking over some florida flying from ASA starting this weekend due to the three lost airframes.

 

[Medeco]

I hope our insurance is covering this. I have no doubt they will try not to.

Can you say premium increase?

Medeco

 

[mtsupilot376]

MESA (still) SUCKS!

 

[1080P]

I hope our insurance is covering this. I have no doubt they will try not to.

Can you say premium increase?

Medeco

As long as it's not proved as negligence they will, according the MCC. I agree they will try though.

 

[Smacktard]

That mx guy was a woman I'm told. That explains it all! She was a recent new hire too. And now a recent unhired.

Hmmm, can't use the 'crack in the seat' comment...'cause the b1tch wasn't sitting in it!

 

[genus]

Look at the bright side. At least now we might get a new cabin trainer at FSI! The door on that old Air Canada airframe is about to fall off the hinges it has been opened and closed so many times. Maybe 706EV can be born again at FSI!!

 

[ILOVEBEER]

If the mechanic started #1 without energizing the electric hydraulic pumps for systems 2 or 3 then the only hydraulics for the brakes come from the accumulators. The inboard brakes are on 3 and outboards are on 2.

Most likely if it had been sitting for a while there wasn't much charge in the accumulators, it is also hard to step on the brakes if you are standing in the flight deck.

Got it. It was kind of a rhetorical question. I've never heard of anyone starting #1 first, just for that reason. We always start #2 first, period.

 

[JustaNumber]

Got it. It was kind of a rhetorical question. I've never heard of anyone starting #1 first, just for that reason. We always start #2 first, period.

Apparently, a few things weren't done quite by the book, so it's pretty feasible.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I have pics, but don't know if I'll get in trouble.

 

[SiuDude]

I have pics, but don't know if I'll get in trouble.

Naw. Especially if the photos just happen to show up on flickr.com with a tag of asabtr.