ASA/COMAIR Set To Expand CRJ70s

[surplus1]

I wish you guys sucess and happiness with your careers, just not at the expense of mine or any other pilots. Good luck in your pursuit of other peoples jobs and money.
NYR

Right up until you said that I was actually listening to what you had to say. Now I've reverted to seeing you as just another unhappy Delta pilot who ignores the forest while focusing on his favorite tree.

I can't speak for either of the gentlemen you mentioned by name, but if you were serious and really wanted to know what the RJDC wants, you would. We've been trying to tell you for years now but you and yours only listen to what you want to hear and the rest falls on deaf ears. Otherwise you would already have the answer to your questions. Besides, you wouldn't believe us if we did try to tell you again.

A long time ago I believe the RJDC made a "settlement proposal" to ALPA, which ALPA rejected. I suggest you ask your MEC to get it from ALPA and give it to you. Then you will know what the RJDC wants from your own leadership. Even if that proposal is no longer on the table (I don't know if it is), it should give you a good idea.

I hope that answers your questions, but I really don't think that anything will. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."

PS. I'll make a side bet that if you do ask your MEC you'll get some excuse as to why they can't tell you, that is if you get any answer at all. You see, they really don't want you to know and they're on your side.

 

[surplus1]

Isn't there any possibility of a compromise between the ALPA units at the mainline and connection carriers?

Perhaps a "joint scope" agreement.

Nice post sir. A joint scope agreement would be a good starter, provided the negotiations give each of the parties an equal voice in its development.

The rest of your post contains many additional good ideas. Some may need refinement and others, like flow through, may have no value but you are thinking and that's what's important.

It is not likely that any solution will be perfect and compromise will probably be required on both sides. However, in my opinion, one thing is certain. As long as the DMEC maintains the position that it and it alone will unilaterally make the decisions this dispute cannot be settled out of court.

The attitude and the belief on the part of the DMEC that it alone may dictate at will the future and fate of Comair and ASA pilots, either within the Delta System or within the ALPA, must go or there will be no solution other than one mandated by a court of law.

Thanks for advancing your ideas. They were constructive and well worth reading.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

You'll never see a combined list. Never. It is ONLY up to management, and with the internal strife between the three groups going on now, they are laughing all the way to the bank. Not with doh, not with staple, not with anything.

 

[V-1]

You are so right about Delta not making money with over 80% load factors. Hell, we made money with 60% before.

When will we pilots understand that load factors are only one side of the equation? If the consumer is reluctant to buy a product, the price must be lowered. Once price reaches a certain level, profit can't be made regardless how many products are sold.

Low-cost carriers, the demise of irrational, stock-market euphoria driven spending, internet travel agents, etc. have brought an end to the days of making profits with 60% load factors for the time being. The supplier must have enough flexibility to adjust capacity to demand, or risk failure.

Just because a company is selling a product doesn't mean they are financially viable.

Respectfully

 

[ACE]

I wish you guys sucess and happiness with your careers, just not at the expense of mine or any other pilots. Good luck in your pursuit of other peoples jobs and money.

NYR,If that is not the pot calling the kettle black.

Lastly, I ask you this.....What do you want the outcome of all this to be? Don't beat around the bush here. I want to know what types of planes you want for dci and the pay rates you would like to fly them at. After you do all this, I would like to know how you intend on protecting your jobs...

Again NYR, I'm not going to keep arguing over the same issues with you because you have a singleminded point of view (with a chip on your shoulder).