ASA Charleston negotiation news

[proftomda]

Havent heard anything from negotiations which were supposed to wrap up yesterday in CHS. Since I havent worked since 05 JAN, does anyone have updates?

 

[HoserASA]

ASA's 'Roadmap To Success" has resulted in negotiations going down dead end roads........

In other words, no progress......

 

[Crash Pad]

I heard from a very good source... that the contract is pretty much done they have to dot some i's in lawyer world. Expect a big announcement and vote mid Febuary.

 

[Texx]

I heard from a very good source... that the contract is pretty much done they have to dot some i's in lawyer world. Expect a big announcement and vote mid Febuary.

Don't trust the info your "very good source" is giving you. It will be after March.

 

[Berry McCockner]

If that is the case, then why would the emails I've been getting say just the opposite. In a nutshell, every email I've gotten has said that they are still negotiating sect 13 with very little progress. who is the source?

 

[ReportCanoa]

I heard from a very good source... that the contract is pretty much done they have to dot some i's in lawyer world. Expect a big announcement and vote mid Febuary.

Bulhnsht

 

[atlcrashpad]

The Road to Success is still being paved. It is a long road and work crews have lots of work to do. Do not expect anything anytime soon.

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

The "Road to Success" is paved with horse dung.

 

["GO AROUND"]

I heard from a very good source... that the contract is pretty much done they have to dot some i's in lawyer world. Expect a big announcement and vote mid Febuary.

Your source must be your X-1 FO right? A managment source? Please.

"Unless the association is willing to accept a substandard agreement by drop important issues". They are making slow progress on the table scraps, but the meat of the contract is still to be chewed on. The company wants the flexibility to do what, when, and where they want so the incompetents that try to run the airline on a daily basis can try even less to do their job.

We propose and they propose the same thing over and over again. "The association continue's to modify it's position, while addressing managment's concerns. Managment rarely offers appeciable solutions to the associations issues."

"Continuing to relive debates from 2 years ago", yeah, that sounds like its done alright.


The issues are being narrowed but not even close to done.

 

[Freebrd]

I heard from a very good source... that the contract is pretty much done they have to dot some i's in lawyer world. Expect a big announcement and vote mid Febuary.

crashpad = management

 

[ReportCanoa]

The company wants the flexibility to do what, when, and where they want so the incompetents that try to run the airline on a daily basis can try even less to do their job.

That's the Vision. And the Roadmap to Success will lead us there if we don't shut this dump, ASAP. Roadmap to my AZZ.

 

[HoserASA]

Well, I'm P2P and all the updates I get point to more stalling on management's part. Perhaps things will pick up next month. It would be wonderful to get this behind us so that this company could become what it should have been 20+ years ago, a great place to work. We'll know soon enough!

Hoser

 

[fsworld]

If that is the case, then why would the emails I've been getting say just the opposite. In a nutshell, every email I've gotten has said that they are still negotiating sect 13 with very little progress. who is the source?

Thats funny, every email ive gotton from alpa has been nothing more than an obvious nutshell. So far every one of them has been worthless as it says nothing. Cant they at least tell us what happend at the meeting? Or would that make them and the company both look bad?

 

[jeroom]

I just wonder where all of this .... is gonna end!

 

[Texx]

Thats funny, every email ive gotton from alpa has been nothing more than an obvious nutshell. So far every one of them has been worthless as it says nothing. Cant they at least tell us what happend at the meeting? Or would that make them and the company both look bad?

They would but the company reps begin to cry and complain to the mediator.

 

[WateryGrave]

The "Road to Success" is paved with horse dung.

Mind if I ask what a C-153 is???????

Must've missed that one in training.

 

["GO AROUND"]

Thats funny, every email ive gotton from alpa has been nothing more than an obvious nutshell. So far every one of them has been worthless as it says nothing. Cant they at least tell us what happend at the meeting? Or would that make them and the company both look bad?

Being a P2P as well, the emails you are getting is what is happening at the meetings. The company wants the pilots to think they have changed and they want to get this done. The company is only interested in their roadmap and views the pilots issues unimportant.

The company negotiators have given no indication of changing the way they negotiate and are not investing much effort in finishing. They want us to give up all the important issues and take what they are offering and that's it.

It's all about the language. We want specific and they don't. In a lot of sections, ONE WORD, is holding the section open. One word that would or would not allow the company to reinterperate the contract when it benifits them. These are not major economic issues they are debating right now. What's gonna happen when they do.

I'm waiting for the next attack on the CNC and MEC by the company. I'll bet you they blame them for the slow pace and the fact that this is not going to be finished by the Mar. deadline.

 

[MACHTRANSDUCER]

The Road...

"the Road To He11 Was Paved With Good Intentions"
R. Travis