ASA/Brad H.

[Max Q]

No it's not. One guy had a different (albeit terrible) idea about how to help a grieving family. Anyway, back on topic.

 

[JumpersAway]

I don't think it is a terrible idea at all. Actually, I think it would be quite an honorable venture, to set up a collection of funds in the name of Tanner. The donations could then be used for a scholarship, in Tanner's name, or a donation to a noteworthy charity. It might be comforting to the Holts for them to know that even after he's gone, Tanner was still able to help someone. I'm in and up for it.......

At the least, I think a card would be good. I'd imagine a large number of cards would truly show support, without being obtrusive or invasive.

And no, I don't feel this thread is disrespectful.

 

[V1rowt8]

God bless the Holt family, so sorry for their loss.

 

[sunlitpath]

http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2012/05/29/faa-seeks-information-toxicology-reports-ordered/

 

[PBRstreetgang]

S.o.p.

 

[mtsupilot376]

Correct me if I am mistaken, but isn't a toxicology report one of the standard tests in any incident/accident? I mean if a wing walker isn't doing his job and I get hit by a rogue catering chariot, I have to go take a piss test even if the parking brake is set. So I'm assuming if I crash my Cessna 200ft from the end of the runway and kill myself along with all my buddies, I will also be tested for alcohol and/or other illicit substances.

I don't think it's is anything out of the ordinary. I hope they don't find anything though. That would be bad.


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[sunlitpath]

Ya, you all make good points. I wonder why the FED felt the need to say that he smelled alcohol amongst the four of them. He probably should have waited for the toxicology test to be completed before making a public statement about alcohol. This article was public information. It's interesting to see how these cases evolve.

 

[HelloNewman]

No father should ever have to bury their son...

 

[Indy319FA]

First I want to extend my condolences to the Holt family.

Second I found this quote more intersting than the possibility of alcohol:

“I need to calculate the weight and balance,” said Olsen. In order to do so, he said he needs to determine “how much fuel could he possibly have on board.”

I don't know about everybody else, but the only time I have been able to get four adults in a 172 and go anyplace was when two of them were ladies weighing around 110 ish pounds a piece. Four big guys in a 172 at that density altitude wouldn't leave a whole of fuel. Hopefully this turns out to be something else and Tanner Holt is cleared of any mistakes. But we all can make a mistake, and hopefully we can all learn from this if any were made.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Honestly, I'm doubting there was any mass and balance done at 1am. Just sayin. This isn't going to come down to CG being out by an inch.

Just the same- very sorry to hear about it!

 

[FishandFly]

Pondering fault or cause before the ntsb publishes their findings or the video is released is pure foolishness.

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

Guessing the cause when you have nothing to go on is gay.

 

[Indy319FA]

Honestly, I'm doubting there was any mass and balance done at 1am. Just sayin. This isn't going to come down to CG being out by an inch.

Just the same- very sorry to hear about it!

Agreed. Was looking more at being overweight at a high altitude than anything else.

 

[Indy319FA]

Guessing the cause when you have nothing to go on is gay.

Not reading the whole thread is gay. I was commenting on what the FAA investigator said.

 

[sunlitpath]

http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/ar...ne-fateful-night-that-ended-in-a-plane-crash/

 

[Flightbag]

That's right. Throw Tanner under the bus.

I know you're all thinking the worst about him. I'm not

Hey! So an adult pilot and a few friends were sitting around at 0130 drinking milk and eating cookies when they decided to go flying.

Something went wrong and they're was an accident with loss of life. Unfortunately, that happens all the time. Too bad.


Flightbag

 

[asayankee]

I will withhold final judgement until toxicology comes back, but if he was taking shots and drinking then this is not an "accident".

That term drives me friggin' nuts. When you are speeding and talking on the phone and happen to rear-end somebody, that's not an accident....you screwed up! They didn't "stop short", it was entirely your fault. That guy didn't "come out of nowhere"....you failed to see him. Outside of some mechanical failure "accidents" are just people's way of rationalizing their screw ups. Have some accountability!

Sorry......rant over.

 

[Erlanger]

That's right. Throw Tanner under the bus.

I know you're all thinking the worst about him. I'm not

Hey! So an adult pilot and a few friends were sitting around at 0130 drinking milk and eating cookies when they decided to go flying.

Something went wrong and they're was an accident with loss of life. Unfortunately, that happens all the time. Too bad.


Flightbag

I don't think the friends and family of the other three occupants feel the same way as you do. It's amazing in that in all the comments in all the forums online, aviation and/or news I've read concerning this accident, not one person has ever expressed their sympathy for the other three and for their friends and family. So many of you are so concerned about protecting Tanner. I'm not saying to throw him under the bus but what's coming out already isn't looking good.

 

[FishandFly]

I read Flightbag's comments to be sarcasm if it helps.

I agree with you. Although the situation sucks, the assumed blame/fault side starts really sucking for the only pilot on board when their friend who lived comes right out and says they were drinking.

 

[JumpersAway]

It didn't take long for this thread to take a turn for the worst. Why don't we just let this be until things come out in an official investigation. If they were going to a party or to California, it wouldn't have been unthinkable to have a bottle of liquor in a duffle bag for later. As for drinking beforehand- wouldn't that have meant the three others knew Tanner was drinking since they were together for the full day/evening????

I just hope this ends silently for those left living such that they can remember the finest of character for those who lost their lives...........

 

[sunlitpath]

From all accounts, it seems that these four men were good friends and were quite active and adventurous. Any time someone gets into a GA aircraft there is a known risk involved. Thankfully, nobody on the ground was affected. These men lived as friends and they died as friends. May they rest in peace. Sincere condolences to friends and family.