ASA and glass time?

[QuasarZ]

I got the call from ASA today and they said I need some glass time. Do you know if a 172 with the G1000 would work as the glass time or does it need to be some jet course? I would'nt mind going out and flying a 172 around, but I am not paying for a jet class!!

Thanks

 

[N1VIBS]

Not sure, but the "glass" 172 might be OK. I know we get a lot of people from a school in Peachtree City GA that uses the Cirrus ( I think thats what it is) and they count that as glass time. Call back the person you talked to and ask.

 

[jeroom]

How much time single and multi do you have?
a G1000 is glass and should work...
I never got any jet training class prior to get hired there.

 

[flyf15]

ASA is telling people they need "glass" time? Why is that?

Its got to be that you are really really low time and they need it to justify hiring you (and maybe their insurance is requiring it), that they're getting a kick-back from "glass cockpit training" providers, or.... who knows.


People seem to forget that just a few short years ago, glass in general aviation planes was essentially nonexistant.

 

[shamrock]

They can't seem to fill new-hire classes yet they still want you to have glass time. That's funny.

 

[Max Q]

I'm not sure what you mean by filling new hire classes but they have been doing about 25-35 a month consistently for quite a while now.

Your interview includes a full motion level D CRJ-700 sim so they are probably telling you so they don’t waste their time on somebody who is low time and has zero experience with ticker tape. Dude, just use FS2004 with an RJ (get use to the trend vector) or go and pay $150-$200 an hour for G1000/Avidyne time. Or just go out and build more real world experience. :lol:

Typically, people who are higher total time and zero ticker tape experience do well enough on the sim. Somebody with low everything is going to eat it.

-Brett

 

[PCL_128]

Not sure, but the "glass" 172 might be OK. I know we get a lot of people from a school in Peachtree City GA that uses the Cirrus ( I think thats what it is) and they count that as glass time. Call back the person you talked to and ask.

The place in Peachtree City uses Diamond aircraft with the G1000 system installed. More advanced than the glass on either the CRJ or the 717. Definitely a nice setup, but they charge something like $165/hr for it. They wanted me to do a minimum of a 10 hour checkout before they'd let me rent it (despite the fact that I've got over 3500 hours in "glass" airplanes ), so I told them to take a hike. There's another place on the north side of town at PDK that has Cirrus airplane with the glass setup, but they charge a ridiculous fee also with a 10 hour checkout.

 

[wms]

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[rumrnr78]

If wms is your instructor, be up on your Seinfeld quotes .
Jackie Chiles says, "Glass cockpit? Who told you glass time? Pushing the speaker phone,
"Linda, make an appointment with wms, tell him it's for me"

rum

 

[Beech Balls]

Umm....people....the whole point of a glass cockpit is to make it EASIER to fly on the 'gauges'....not harder. Asking pilots for Glass Time is pure BULL********************.

I'd rather have a hand-flying old-school freight-dog sitting next to me than some RJ goober with 1000hrs of 'glass time'....

 

[Beech Balls]

Umm....people....the whole point of a glass cockpit is to make it EASIER to fly on the 'gauges'....not harder. Asking pilots for Glass Time is pure BULL********************.

I'd rather have a hand-flying old-school freight-dog sitting next to me than some RJ goober with 1000hrs of 'glass time'....

No offense now....

 

[JoeMerchant]

Great.... "glass time"...... Forget about experience and cross wind landing ability.....

I guess we are hiring button pushers instead of aviators.....

 

[Dharmesh1231]

Great.... "glass time"...... Forget about experience and cross wind landing ability.....

I guess we are hiring button pushers instead of aviators.....

You are absolutely right. That's the changing face of aviation now....It's like getting an MPL instead of a traditional pvt, inst, comm. God help these new kids coming into aviation.

 

[QuasarZ]

I agree with the above posts, it is total BS. There is no way I am going out to buy a "jet course" just to get the job, that is what ground school and training is for.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

There's a pilot surplus now. Airlines can be "picky" again. :bomb:

 

[Beergut]

I got the call from ASA today and they said I need some glass time. Do you know if a 172 with the G1000 would work as the glass time or does it need to be some jet course? I would'nt mind going out and flying a 172 around, but I am not paying for a jet class!!

Thanks

Lately I thought the only glass you had to worry about to get hired at ASA was the mirror they hold under your nose to see if it fogs up.

 

[wms]

If wms is your instructor, be up on your Seinfeld quotes .
Jackie Chiles says, "Glass cockpit? Who told you glass time? Pushing the speaker phone,
"Linda, make an appointment with wms, tell him it's for me"

rum

Come on! You know I always wanted to pretend I was an architect!

 

[dueguard1]

Jeez Asa Still Asking For That Glass Time Nonsense As Hard As It Is For Anyone To Staff Properly...

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Ooh. Glass Cockpit. Sounds very 1990.

 

[av8tor4239]

10 Hours In A C172 G1000........ $4000

Intrest Owed After Putting $4000 On Your Credit Card..... $3000

Being Assigned The Atr In Newhire Class After All That..... Priceless!