capt. crunch
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146guy said:Don't gamble with you're career man, come to AWAC. I believe we are in the running for the best airline on the planet. We have 70 jet powered 1900's getting ready to DOMINATE the east coast, and we're currently buying as many 146's as we can find to open a large west coast market. With all this growth about to occur, upgrades will surely run around the 6 month mark. Come join our little party bud.
Jungle Prop said:Don't listen to Fins, he always thinks the world is caving in. ASA is by no means the best regional. But most regionals are all the same, they are and always will be regionals. Our pay is below Comairs, but our contract has also been expired three years. Sheduling sucks, no way around it. But once you get off first year pay and off reserve, life isnt too bad for a new hire. I love how the guys that have been here ten years complain about how shootty it is, yet their the guys you talk to who don't have any apps out anywhere and dont want to leave because it would be a paycut initially. They make 70 grand and don't look any further down the road. The most important factor would be an airline with a base you want to live at. Right now CHQ and COEX look the best, but who knows down the road. ASA will be a pretty good job once we get a new contract with better work rukes. Ive worked at other shoottier airlines with no contract and work rules and find it amusing when people who dont know any better compalin about regionals. It is what it is.
~~~^~~~ said:It all depends on your expectations. The first year I was here I got transferred to DFW against my will, was paying for two houses, sitting around bored on reserve, flying naps in the E120, getting junior manned when I was 1,000 miles away from base for .98 hours of block time and made $12,200 for the year. The strange thing is - I was happy because I was flying airplanes. Those are the shoes Doo Doo Brown and FS World (short for Flight Simulator?) are apparently in. They are happy because they are "airline pilots."
Now I make 5 times that amount and hold schedules as a CA in my chosen domicile. But I get mad when the phone rings at 02:30 several times a month on my off days (plus every holiday) to junior man me. I get mad that Crew Scheduling uses a calling card and tells my children "it is one of your daddy's friends," tricking them on the phone. I get mad that our Company has an ASAP program to report pilots to the FAA (which starts certificate action) while denying pilots an ASAP program without negotiating it into the contract. I get mad that crew scheduling can run you up to 02: 00 into your off day and not compensate you and can junior man you without regard for seniority (ever day off is a day of reserve at time and a half at this airline) You think you can drink a beer on your day off - think again. They junior manned a friend of mine and assigned him a trip while he was int he middle of a lake in a Bass boat holding a beer in one hand and a pole in the other. And yes he got a trip failure / occurrence when he no show'd despite the fact he was physiologically incapable of operating the airplane.
A slave is someone who has no control of their schedule or their life. We are slaves.
Another friend of mine was driving home to be with his dying mother. He was junior manned and threatened. He turned down the assignment. His mother died. ASA fired him. That is the sort of airline this is.
A professional pilot is someone who asks how much a job pays before asking what kind of airpane they will be flying. Over the years you realize that this is a profession and you begin to want to be treated like a professional. ASA would prefer that you left the Company when you reach that point in your professional life. Our current president put the number at 5 and 1/2 years, which is about right.
In balance some corporate / 135 jobs are like ASA. You have an boss who holds your Certificate out to the FAA every time he screws up and you have no control over your schedule. If you like that sort of thing, could use the excercise picketing, and like to stand around a barrell burning wood with your union buddies this winter - welcome aboard. Just don't expect much.