ASA 50 seaters going to SLC

[flylowman]

Why can't we all get along? I am looking at a ATR. It has 66 seats but is certified up to 72. It has props so it is cooler than your jet. BTW my dad can beat up your dad, and my dog is better than your dog.

 

[Tomct]

The reason for the new Skywst rates is because JA is going to hear BAD things from the mediator and he is going to have to loosen the purse strings for his step children whether he likes it or not!! Time will tell, I smell a new contract on the way......:laugh:

 

[AuburnRedneck9]

The reason for the new Skywst rates is because JA is going to hear BAD things from the mediator and he is going to have to loosen the purse strings for his step children whether he likes it or not!! Time will tell, I smell a new contract on the way......:laugh:

I couldn't agree with you more. Remeber all of those tools at FSI when we were doing recurrent..what a joke.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Great! Thanks, that will give us some leverage in our negotiations, and maybe your low a$$ rates will not be shoved up our a$$es.

Actually, it isn't the Skywest rates that really hurt us. There are many ALPA negotiated rates and workrules that are far more harmful to our negotiations than the Skywest rates. Mesa, TransStates, and Compass are the most harmful......

 

[JoeMerchant]

And how many days off does that include.

More than many ALPA regionals and soon to be created mainline alter-ego carriers such as Compass.....

 

[John Pennekamp]

Here we go again... one track Joe with his greatest hits.

Maybe y'all should go back to the ALPA web board. Heat gettin' too much for you over there, LOL?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Here we go again... one track Joe with his greatest hits.

Maybe y'all should go back to the ALPA web board. Heat gettin' too much for you over there, LOL?

I did Will, err.... John.

Now, would you like to comment the point I made. I would submit to you that the Mesa, TransStates, Pinnacle, Compass, and MidAtlantic agreements are hampering us more than the Skywest payrate. Soon we will be able to add the Mesaba and CMR agreements to the growing list of ALPA signed agreements that are hurting our negotiations.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Here we go again... one track Joe with his greatest hits.

But he is right.

 

[John Pennekamp]

I did Will, err.... John.

Now, would you like to comment the point I made. I would submit to you that the Mesa, TransStates, Pinnacle, Compass, and MidAtlantic agreements are hampering us more than the Skywest payrate. Soon we will be able to add the Mesaba and CMR agreements to the growing list of ALPA signed agreements that are hurting our negotiations.

Not Will, but am friends with him. Try again.

For your comment, I don't disagree with you.

Now you may want to go over to ALPA and defend your OLD LADY'S honor. She's really getting it handed to her over there.

 

[John Pennekamp]

OK, "Joe" saw your lame rebuttal on ALPA.

Unlike Will, I was here in 98 and along with the other that have spoken up, know what you two did. It's curous that you only respond to Will. Why is that? Guess it's just your nature to go after the easy targets.

I'd love to see your rebuttal to Frank. When can we expect it?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Maybe y'all should go back to the ALPA web board. Heat gettin' too much for you over there, LOL?

For all you non-ASA people wondering about this. Think of one of the all time great Flightinfo cage matches, but this time nobody can hide behind a screen name. :smash:

 

[bender]

I couldn't agree with you more. Remeber all of those tools at FSI when we were doing recurrent..what a joke.

C'mon Redneck. Let's talk about the real reason you're pissed off. If my team lost at home to the worst team in my conference I'd be angry too. I mean, HOW do you let a team that both Vanderbilt and Kentucky beat put 37 points up on the board? In your house too...that's pathetic! We're not even considering the fact that the OTHER team from Georgia simply owns you. They first beat you with a freshman quarterback, and then they beat you on the road. Again at your house. But buck up Redneck! At least you still get to use that Auburn degree to park in the handicapped spots. Such a short walk to the grocery store!

If you ever want to explain to us in a reasonable and coherent manner why you think we're tools, all you have to do is walk over to FSI. We're there 20 hours a day 7 days a week. I promise I won't bring up football either. It'd be too much of a low blow.

 

[Tomct]

C'mon Redneck. Let's talk about the real reason you're pissed off. If my team lost at home to the worst team in my conference I'd be angry too. I mean, HOW do you let a team that both Vanderbilt and Kentucky beat put 37 points up on the board? In your house too...that's pathetic! We're not even considering the fact that the OTHER team from Georgia simply owns you. They first beat you with a freshman quarterback, and then they beat you on the road. Again at your house. But buck up Redneck! At least you still get to use that Auburn degree to park in the handicapped spots. Such a short walk to the grocery store!

If you ever want to explain to us in a reasonable and coherent manner why you think we're tools, all you have to do is walk over to FSI. We're there 20 hours a day 7 days a week. I promise I won't bring up football either. It'd be too much of a low blow.

ZOOM!!!! Just went right over your head bender! His name has NOTHING to do with Auburn Football. But WOW can you talk! Good thing you are at FSI 20hrs a day 7 days a week!

 

[bender]

Yup I got ahead of myself. It just comes from the natural association of Auburn and Rednecks. You can continue with the regularly scheduled FI madness! Oh, and my use of "we're" is in the vague plural possesive. So I personally am not there 20 hours a day, however my company is. Clear? Sweet!

 

[bender]

A little birdie told me tomorrow's pay proposal:

1% base increase to -200 rates
5% further increase for a -700/900 override
No increase for Bro pilots
No retro pay
Override is only paid for actual 700/900 flight time (a couple exceptions) and will only be paid IF you break daily AND monthly guarantee.
4 year "duration"

 

[NarcolepticAV8R]

4 year????

 

[Terrain Terrain]

I couldn't agree with you more. Remeber all of those tools at FSI when we were doing recurrent..what a joke.

tools hu?, who do you think had the last laugh when we were walking around the place like we owned it, ooooops my bad WE DO. The joke was on you, if you thought you were clowning us out, ahahahahhahaha. Its our training facility now. And even more sad, we have no problems with you guys, in my mind you are just a bunch of guys doing your job. But oh well, be happy. Nice coffee machine though!!!, that thing rules. I like the snickers mixed with expresso.

 

[B727FA]

There are no 705's in SLC you stupid redneck. Before you bash somebody get your facts straight.

There's a whole slew of them...I see them every trip through SLC. They're parked over at the B gates.

The 705 is the 900 airframe.

Get YOUR facts straight.

 

[McNugent]

tools hu?, who do you think had the last laugh when we were walking around the place like we owned it, ooooops my bad WE DO. The joke was on you, if you thought you were clowning us out, ahahahahhahaha. Its our training facility now. And even more sad, we have no problems with you guys, in my mind you are just a bunch of guys doing your job. But oh well, be happy. Nice coffee machine though!!!, that thing rules. I like the snickers mixed with expresso.

Listen TOOL I have no personal problems with you guys being in ATL... now you'll get a taste of the crap we deal with all the time. You need to remember that even though Skywest owns the sims and the time, you will make NO friends saying sh!t like that. You enjoy YOUR sims and YOUR new growth at our expense while you can TOOL.

 

[www.]

tools hu?, who do you think had the last laugh when we were walking around the place like we owned it, ooooops my bad WE DO. The joke was on you, if you thought you were clowning us out, ahahahahhahaha. Its our training facility now. And even more sad, we have no problems with you guys, in my mind you are just a bunch of guys doing your job. But oh well, be happy. Nice coffee machine though!!!, that thing rules. I like the snickers mixed with expresso.

Last time I walked in the front door it said FlightSafety. Skywest Airlines does not own it. Becareful, very careful at night. You never know what might happen around FSI and the Red Roof.

 

[txpilot1974]

Becareful, very careful at night. You never know what might happen around FSI and the Red Roof.

Are we reduced to this?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Last time I walked in the front door it said FlightSafety. Skywest Airlines does not own it. Becareful, very careful at night. You never know what might happen around FSI and the Red Roof.

So ALPA has failed in job security, and your reaction is to threaten Skywest pilots? It isn't their fault that ALPA is a total failure.... is it?

 

[HA25]

Nice coffee machine though!!!, that thing rules. I like the snickers mixed with expresso.

When I was at ASA, we used to call that machine the Yager 2000.... the 1000 was inside the crew room in the corner, it was the coffee pot.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Are we reduced to this?

No some are, but most realize this isn't the fault of Skywest pilots. It is a shame that an ASA pilot with ALPA connections is threatening a Skywest pilot with violence. Don't worry, it is an idle threat much like any other ALPA threat. The ALPA cheerleaders are scared and they are lashing out at the Skywest pilots. They should be lashing out at their ALPA leadership instead. Rest assured, most ASA pilots don't blame Skywest pilots, and if we meet you in the parking lot at Flight Safety, we will invite you to Spondivits for a beer!

 

[Tomct]

No some are, but most realize this isn't the fault of Skywest pilots. It is a shame that an ASA pilot with ALPA connections is threatening a Skywest pilot with violence. Don't worry, it is an idle threat much like any other ALPA threat. The ALPA cheerleaders are scared and they are lashing out at the Skywest pilots. They should be lashing out at their ALPA leadership instead. Rest assured, most ASA pilots don't blame Skywest pilots, and if we meet you in the parking lot at Flight Safety, we will invite you to Spondivits for a beer!

Joe, while I don't agree with the threats going on, it amazes me how you turn this around as a ALPA bash. You truely are a SAD....SAD little man.

 

[AuburnRedneck9]

Shut your mouth John.

So ALPA has failed in job security, and your reaction is to threaten Skywest pilots? It isn't their fault that ALPA is a total failure.... is it?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Joe, while I don't agree with the threats going on, it amazes me how you turn this around as a ALPA bash. You truely are a SAD....SAD little man.

It's very simple Tomct. If ALPA had done it's job, we wouldn't be competing with each other for flying within a brand. However ALPA didn't do their job, and now we are competing with each other. The pilots of other carriers, whether they are ALPA or not, are not the problem. This was a failure of ALPA.

Hate the game, not the players.....

By the way, is ALPA doing anything to stop this "game"......

 

[JoeMerchant]

Shut your mouth John.

Why? Because you don't want to hear about how ALPA has failed you? Would you rather threaten Skywest pilots with violence? That won't help any. You give rednecks a bad name!

 

[Tomct]

It's very simple Tomct. If ALPA had done it's job, we wouldn't be competing with each other for flying within a brand. However ALPA didn't do their job, and now we are competing with each other. The pilots of other carriers, whether they are ALPA or not, are not the problem. This was a failure of ALPA.

Hate the game, not the players.....

By the way, is ALPA doing anything to stop this "game"......

Once again Joe, you are not reading your email. Three of the MEC's met in SLC right along with possible Skywst pilots who had union questions,talked about how to stop this craziness. But of course, this did not make it into your post....IMAGINE THAT!!!!

 

[HA25]

All this reminds me of the ONE-ALPA atmosphere at ASA. There always have been a few militant types there unfortunately, just a few mind you, as the overwhelming majority were good people thru and thru.

All the while, the managers of the airlines are the real winners.. whipsaw.