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I'll start.I'm in the bottom 10%. I voted NO.
My reasons:
1-Eliminating 2nd step for no apparent reason other than to exert their will on us.
2-While guaranteeing the mitigation of current forecast furloughs, there is no guarantee of future furloughs (say the one they'd announce for Nov. 1.)
3-If my #2 concern comes true, ALPA will be put in a corner. ALPA can choose to exit the program (feeling we've been duped) which management will use to say ALPA is exacerbating the problem and thus creating the need for more furloughs (and more vitrol from junior members.)
4-It still allows pilots to fly to FAR limits through VSA and premium trips (at straight pay). If this MOU passes, the company could conceivably mark every trip a premium trip, thereby allowing anyone to fly over the monthly max.
I'd prefer we actually negotiate a program mutually. If that isn't an option, we need to enforce ourselves as has been suggested by others.
Fire away,
Wally
I'll start.
Wally, it's dip$hit thinking like yours that is the ruin of us all. You are making decisions based on speculation, conspiracy theory, and fear mongering by an MEC chair that loves to tell you that he's "playing poker" with his constituent's livliehoods and families. Well, guess what, they weren't bluffing. Good thing they avoided being put in that hypothetical corner, eh?
While your spinning all sorts of fantasy scenario possibilities, you (and the rest of you losers) have completely disregarded FACT. Why do you hate fact so? Did you even read the MOU? Were there too many big words?
FACT - There would have been 30 less names on the list today.
FACT - No matter what happened in the future, at the absolute worst case, the temporary inconvenience to the half of the guys that actually benefit from second step; as well as the ability to undermine their fellow pilots by picking up VSA, would be over in a little over a year. That's worst case, of course. If your 100% hypothetical scenarios played out, it would almost assuredly have ended much sooner.
FACT - This pilot group just did the most shameful thing I have ever seen a pilot group do and I will never forget it. I can't fully put into words the contempt I have for you bitches. Looks to me like you did a great job putting into words what you think of these pu$$ies. 30 Families and you didn't even try. Couldn't suck up pilot-to-pilot trades for a few months to help 30 Families. :angryfire What, in the name of Christ, is wrong with you?
I call that one a close one... don't you think Baze, Baja...
Great, let the name calling and the bitching begin. My heart goes out to those who are/will be furloughed. As long as my finances allow, we will continue to donate to the furlough fund. I honestly do feel your pain, but some of you guys are way out of line. You know who you are. It wasn't just the VSAers and greedy bastages who voted NO for this MOU. I had my reasons and just because one voted NO doesn't make him/her selfish or an idiot. You guys are creating a bad name for the rest of the furloughed folks. Yal'll sound like you are from the "I am entitled" juvenile generation. Geez!
Let me ask you this... how many of you voted for the TA? Like someone said before, I told you so!
Great, let the name calling and the bitching begin. My heart goes out to those who are/will be furloughed. As long as my finances allow, we will continue to donate to the furlough fund. I honestly do feel your pain, but some of you guys are way out of line. You know who you are. It wasn't just the VSAers and greedy bastages who voted NO for this MOU. I had my reasons and just because one voted NO doesn't make him/her selfish or an idiot. You guys are creating a bad name for the rest of the furloughed folks. Yal'll sound like you are from the "I am entitled" juvenile generation. Geez!
Let me ask you this... how many of you voted for the TA? Like someone said before, I told you so!