What has worked like a CHARM for me the past 13 years of flying corporate and 121 cargo.......when asked to do something ridiculous where rest, being tired, fatigue or just simply something that will just make me miserable because its on the back side of the clock and I've already been up all day.......
I ask the DO, CP or charter person contacting me for the trip...."please email the complete itinerary." Thats where it usually stops............lol
Flying "overly" tired....I won't do it. Period. If its quick 1-2 hour deal then I'll be on the ground, no problem. But hell if I'm ever gonna except a trip after being up all day, and then someone wants me to start a 7-13 hour duty cycle.
Last charter company I worked for had a rule....no charter flights were accepted if they started at 11pm or 1am if they were more than just a couple hour deal....... UNLESS....the crew knew about it in the morning and purposely made it a point to sleep during that day in preparation....and it was up to us pilots. They actually asked us if we could do it.
Regulations or no regulations.....thats not the deciding factor, its the pilots who cause this problem. But unfortunately most pilots allow people to use them like slaves. Too bad for them I guess........
I ask the DO, CP or charter person contacting me for the trip...."please email the complete itinerary." Thats where it usually stops............lol
Flying "overly" tired....I won't do it. Period. If its quick 1-2 hour deal then I'll be on the ground, no problem. But hell if I'm ever gonna except a trip after being up all day, and then someone wants me to start a 7-13 hour duty cycle.
Last charter company I worked for had a rule....no charter flights were accepted if they started at 11pm or 1am if they were more than just a couple hour deal....... UNLESS....the crew knew about it in the morning and purposely made it a point to sleep during that day in preparation....and it was up to us pilots. They actually asked us if we could do it.
Regulations or no regulations.....thats not the deciding factor, its the pilots who cause this problem. But unfortunately most pilots allow people to use them like slaves. Too bad for them I guess........
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