Arrested - No Chance of a Job?

[lowtimedriver]

Of course you should be honest, but if it was more than 10 yrs and you were also under 18 years old, it gets a little silly to even mention it.

Just run a FBI background check on yourself. If the Feds can't find it, do you really think an airline will??

I think you would also have to run a Department of Justice BI check as well. These are two different checks and I think that the DOJ BI goes deeper and longer into your history than the FBI check. Someone mentioned to have a run a BI on you. This is a good idea. If your record was sealed, then you usually do not have to disclose. If your were convicted of a crime in California and your record was sealed/expunged, you only have to report the conviction if you run for public office or for LE I believe.

 

[kamikaize]

Ive been arrested twice, once on spring break when i was 19 and again when i was 23. I paid $900 when i was 19 for the 5 charges an hour after I was arrested and it was all done and over. when i was 23 i got arrested for felony assault when i was a bouncer but the District Attorney entered a no information with intent not to prosecute. Its been 5 years and I havent been in any trouble since then. I got a fbi background check along with all the depositions showing no jail time,community service, or probation issued. Ive been interviewing lately with a few majors and I tell them everything that happened and what Ive learned from them. Im sure there will be a company out there that will take me sooner or later. My advise is get all the information possible about your situation and lay it all out for them. Honesty shows character and thats what they are looking for. I could have the felony arrest expunged but you never know who is doing your background check and how old the database they are using is. you dont wanna be that guy they take a chance on and end up being pulled out of class because someone found it.

Anthony B

 

[JimNtexas]

ASquare, I hope for the sake of your fellow employees that you are never allowed to participate in job interviews.

Asking about arrests that did not lead to convictions is simply not legal. The EEOC has exactly the same kind of authority over private sector hiring practices as the FAA has over private sector flight operations.

My strong advice to anyone who applies for a job at an airline and is asked about arrests without convictions at the interview and then isn't hired is to contact a labor lawyer. Such a person is in a great position to win a very large settlement, and the company is in serious danger of fines from the EEOC.

Note that once the job is offered then if security clearance is required then and only then may the employee be asked about arrests for jobs that require goverment security clearances.

 

[great cornholio]

Heres what I think. I was lucky enough to never have been in this situation, but this seems like an ok idea in my head. Answer truthfully on what ever paperwork they give you. If they ask for convictions in the past 10, 15, 20, forever years then answer appropriately. If they ask for arrests in the past 10, 15, 20, forever then answer appropriately. I was pretty young at my first interview so when I had to fill out the 10 year residence/school/work history it took me back till when I was in like 8th grade so I gave the name and address of my middle and high schools...even though it seemed dumb to want to know what a middle school boy had done I filled it out cause they asked. Thats what I'd do with the paperwork.

Ok now for me the next part is the hard part. On the interview I'd probably not say anything about it till they asked me "do you have anything to add or any questions" etc. This is usually the last question you will get asked. At that point you might say something like "The paper work didn't ask this so I didn't put it on the paper work, but back in the day I was arrested for some stupid teenage boy stuff and if you would like to know more about it I'd be more than happy to explain it right now"

Hope that helps and I hope you get the job. Honestly right now most regionals are hurting bad for pilots and I don't see most turning you away for that. On the unlucky side that you end up not getting the job don't worry because a lot of regionals are hiring now so just use that interview experience and carry it into the next one.

 

[sqwkvfr]

ASquare, I hope for the sake of your fellow employees that you are never allowed to participate in job interviews.

Asking about arrests that did not lead to convictions is simply not legal. The EEOC has exactly the same kind of authority over private sector hiring practices as the FAA has over private sector flight operations.

My strong advice to anyone who applies for a job at an airline and is asked about arrests without convictions at the interview and then isn't hired is to contact a labor lawyer. Such a person is in a great position to win a very large settlement, and the company is in serious danger of fines from the EEOC.

Note that once the job is offered then if security clearance is required then and only then may the employee be asked about arrests for jobs that require goverment security clearances.

I really don't get this....how on earth is it illegal to ask questions about an event that is public informtion?

 

[n5374f]

enough said

In America one can be arrested. The US Constituation says that you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. So it is illegal to ask you about arrests. That is why most employers in the job app ask about convictions. Even the FAA had to clearify its position when inquiring about DUI arrests. If you read the FAA ruling it does not require you to report the arrest. Only if administrative action was taken against your license. As we all know if you get arrested for DUI your license is suspended thus the suspension is the administrative action. If you get arrested and found not guilty does it matter that you were arrested. Innocent people get arrested along with guilty people. Just because you area arrested does not make you guilty of a crime. A few years back a Flight Options pilot was arressted for having sex with an under age girl in a stairwell in the Atlanta airport. It spent month i jail and lost everything he had by the time he went to trial the girl admitted she came on to him, told him she was 20 not 17, and she admitted she solicited him. Does he have to tell the world he was arrested for rape. Of course not, was he convicted no. So it is nobodys business. Was he stupid yes, should have gone to the hotel with her, checked he id first, and used a rubber. But botom line he was not convicted of the crime so he does not have to disclose it on a job interview.

just my 2 cents worth

 

[Inconceivable]

I had not heard that the Options guy was cleared. I <I>do</I> remember plenty of ******************************bags on this website calling for his execution....

 

[Inconceivable]

oh come on, it's the french word for shower!

 

[JimNtexas]

I really don't get this....how on earth is it illegal to ask questions about an event that is public informtion?

Because in the United States you are innocent until proven guility.

Think about it, just the fact that someone was arrested provides no useful informaiton whatsoever that is relevant to employment. People are arrested and released everyday.

It would be extremely unfair and discrimatory to make employment decsions based on arrests that do not result in convictions.

That's what it is illegle to do so.

 

[JimNtexas]

"Ive been arrested twice, once on spring break when i was 19 and again when i was 23. I paid $900 when i was 19 for the 5 charges an hour after I was arrested and it was all done and over."

Since you paid a fine you were convicted of something. An employer might have the right to know about that, if the offense is related to the type of work for which you were applying, and if the conviction occured within a reasonable time prior to your application (usually 7 years I think).

"when i was 23 i got arrested for felony assault when i was a bouncer but the District Attorney entered a no information with intent not to prosecute"

A potential employer cannot ask about arrests that don't lead conviction, nor if they do become of aware of this event could they consider it as part of an employment related decision. Of course, once a candidate 'confesses' to the non-event of an arrest without conviction the employer is going to say 'of course we didn't take that into account' if they elect not to hire you.

I certainly hope the OP consults an experienced employment lawyer about his specific situation. It's probable that he would be better off not mentioning events that the employer isn't allowed to consider.