Army Special Forces

[usmc33]

We're talking US Army Special Forces, son. Keep up, fer crissakes! :uzi:

Former Marine F/A-18 dirt mover, now US ARMY SPECOPS, 20 years and going. Never saw combat as a fighter pilot, but 2 tours in IZ on the ground so far with XXX Group. Keeping up good enough for you? I agree, A-10s for CAS, nothing else comes close.

 

[DaveGriffin]

I agree, A-10s for CAS, nothing else comes close.

Oh sh*t, now you've done it. In a couple of minutes that primadonna MAGNUM!! is going to launch into another lecture about how great the F/16 does CAS and all his sniper pod kills.

He almost had me convinced that the F-16 non-combatants at 20,000 ft had a more objective view of CAS than the dudes down at 0006 ft AGL.

 

[usmc33]

Oh sh*t, now you've done it. In a couple of minutes that primadonna MAGNUM!! is going to launch into another lecture about how great the F/16 does CAS and all his sniper pod kills.

He almost had me convinced that the guys at 20,000 ft had a more objective view of CAS than the dudes down at 0006 ft AGL.

F-16, not F/A-16, 'nuff said.

 

[Snakum]

That's what he is. Don't let the handle fool you. But I'm sure he'll be along to tell you himself...

I'm just giving the 'special' USMC aviator (A/C Flown: F/A-18, KC-130) a hard time.

Some of us were once Marines and then moved on to bigger and better things...

Moved on to bigger and better things? You know you'll miss humping a rucksack ... eating mud ... dodging bullets.

OK ... in the A-10 you'll probably still get to do one of those things. :nuts:

 

[dingo222]

I'd put this lady on my old team:

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usmc33, you in 4th POG now? which Bn?

 

[usmc33]

usmc33, you in 4th POG now? which Bn?

I have served with C/9 in the past, now on a "different" tour. You sound like you've got some knowledge of Ft. Bragg. If you know me, PM me.

 

[dingo222]

usmc33,

check your pm's

 

[Snakum]

I have served with C/9 in the past, now on a "different" tour. You sound like you've got some knowledge of Ft. Bragg. If you know me, PM me.

Flew Hornets, C-130s, and attended SFAS and Q-School?

Dude, I'll bet you CLANK when you walk! Seriously ... my hat's off to ya'! :beer:

 

[dingo222]

SFAS - School For Advanced Suffering

 

[Snakum]

Sandbabies ... SANDbabies!

 

[stonewall]

Oh sh*t, now you've done it. In a couple of minutes that primadonna MAGNUM!! is going to launch into another lecture about how great the F/16 does CAS and all his sniper pod kills.

He almost had me convinced that the F-16 non-combatants at 20,000 ft had a more objective view of CAS than the dudes down at 0006 ft AGL.

I guess the guy that killed Zarqawi is a non-combatant. How objective is the view of Tomahawk? Better than a sniper pod at 20k?

ROVER.

 

[stonewall]

Well isn't that special. :nuts:


'kin jarheads ... geezus.


We're talking US Army Special Forces, son. Keep up, fer crissakes! :uzi:

And for the love of God, leave the F-16s at home when I'm taking fire and need help. Send me an A-10 or Puff the Magic Dragon.

This year's Jabara award winner was an F-16 pilot. Got it for doing CAS. At 100'. Not 10k, not 20k. One hundred.

 

[DaveGriffin]

This year's Jabara award winner was an F-16 pilot. Got it for doing CAS. At 100'. Not 10k, not 20k. One hundred.

"Capt. John Vargas, an F-16 pilot assigned to the 555th Fighter Squadron at Aviano AB, Italy, is the 2006 winner of the Col. James Jabara Award for excellence in airmanship displayed in Operations Iraqi Freedom, Enduring Freedom, and Joint Forge. Vargas provided close air support and employed ordnance on high-value targets during forty-five missions totaling more than 200 hours in Iraq and Afghanistan. During one sortie, he flew at high speed and low altitude expending flares directly over suspected enemy locations to allow a convoy of allied forces to move to safety. Vargas was also involved in developing F-16 mission tactics, techniques, and procedures, including urban close air support, convoy support, and integration with Special Forces. The award is presented annually by the US Air Force."

MAGNNUM!!
Vargas is super hot sh*t. But sadly, he is the exception. To the detriment of the grunts, the risk reduction AF culture doesn't typically promote this type of war fighting mentality and action.

Vargas' tactics reinforce the value of low flying aircraft. A low flying a/c has real impact on the bad guys, not the F-16 at 20,000 ft. But the AF would rather rely on stand-off weapons and keep the a/c away from the battlefield. Most F-16 drivers might as well be UAV operators.

Note: The USAFA will never select an A-10 guy for the Jabara Award, no matter what they do. It would be bad PR.

 

[Scrapdog]

"Capt. John Vargas, an F-16 pilot assigned to the 555th Fighter Squadron at Aviano AB, Italy, is the 2006 winner of the Col. James Jabara Award for excellence in airmanship displayed in Operations Iraqi Freedom, Enduring Freedom, and Joint Forge. Vargas provided close air support and employed ordnance on high-value targets during forty-five missions totaling more than 200 hours in Iraq and Afghanistan. During one sortie, he flew at high speed and low altitude expending flares directly over suspected enemy locations to allow a convoy of allied forces to move to safety. Vargas was also involved in developing F-16 mission tactics, techniques, and procedures, including urban close air support, convoy support, and integration with Special Forces. The award is presented annually by the US Air Force."

MAGNNUM!!
Vargas is super hot sh*t. But sadly, he is the exception. To the detriment of the grunts, the risk reduction AF culture doesn't typically promote this type of war fighting mentality and action.

Vargas' tactics reinforce the value of low flying aircraft. A low flying a/c has real impact on the bad guys, not the F-16 at 20,000 ft. But the AF would rather rely on stand-off weapons and keep the a/c away from the battlefield. Most F-16 drivers might as well be UAV operators.

Note: The USAFA will never select an A-10 guy for the Jabara Award, no matter what they do. It would be bad PR.

Haha! Spoken like a true clown who hasn't actually flown an aircraft a day in his life. Great retort Dave, great retort...no go choke yourself with your hand.

 

[DaveGriffin]

Haha! Spoken like a true clown who hasn't actually flown an aircraft a day in his life. Great retort Dave, great retort...no go choke yourself with your hand.

I have only ONE word for you Zoomie:

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