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It's in the fine print...

Here are some of the details:


A paper copy of ALPA's new LM-2 report would be more than 30,000 pages long.


Does this seem like a good idea to you? Do you imagine that there are any legitimate reasons why a union would need to submit over 30,000 pages of information to the governemnt? Who do you think will read the 30,000 + pages, let alone analyze them in a meaningful manner? ALPA is not a large union compared to many in this country. You would need a whole new branch of government just to LOOK at this much information.


Or, here is an alternative idea. Let's see if it fits the situation:

AFL-CIO President John Sweeny claimed that the
implementation of new union reporting rules "is more evidence
of the Administration's blind determination to weaken
workers' organizations and is clearly political payback for the
workers' overtime pay win [October 2] in the House.



Hmmnnn, let's think about it. A completely unnecessary and useless requirement that is imposed ONLY on labor unions, and is multitudes more costly than the accounting requirement of any company in the US. Sweeny may just be on to something...


How about the method by which this requirement came to be?


The Office of Management and Budget received the final rule
and had at least 90 days to review it to ensure that the changes
do not cause any unnecessary burdens or costs. OMB is
required by law to conduct such reviews of newly proposed
governmental rules and regulations before they are
implemented. "Isn't it ironic," Capt. Woerth said, "that the
same OMB that has been reviewing for several years the
proposed flight-time and duty-time rules and now opposes that
NPRM because it would increase costs for airlines has taken 24
hours to review the new LM-2 rule before passing it on without
a single change or comment."


A regulation that would require unions to submit over 30,000+ pages of information. They looked at it for 24 hours, and decided it was perfect. Sound like the fix was in maybe?


I could go on and on about this, but what's the point? There is no possible legitimate reason for this regulation. It was "get the unions", pure and simple. Your President at his finest.
 
Typhoon,
You smell bad.
 
cherokee said:
Wow, in that long tirade by ALPA not one place did they mention what changes the requirements made.
Read a bit more carefully...

Capt. Woerth declared, "ALPA's current governmental financial reporting requirements are far more detailed than those required of corporations; for example, ALPA's LM-2 is currently about 120 pages long. Our LM-2 reports are for union members what annual reports are for shareholders. How many shareholder reports do you receive that are more than 30 pages long, including numerous photographs and illustrations, a short balance sheet, and a few words of wisdom from the CEO?"
(emphasis added)

Even current requirements are arguably more onerous than the requirements on a large corporation. And if that ain't bad enough...
The new LM-2 report "must be filed only in an electronic format-by law," Capt. Woerth observed. "Why? A paper copy of ALPA's new LM-2 report would be more than 30,000 pages long. No corporation could or would tolerate this sort of harassment. Enron and Global Crossing certainly did not have to file 30,000 pages of financial data on their organizations. Such reporting requirements would put many small businesses and some large ones into bankruptcy.
(emphasis added)

Sounds like just the opposite of the Paperwork Reduction Act you read about everytime you file your 1040.
 
:eek: Ummm, Ok....again, what are the specifics of what has changed? Yes I read that it would be really long, what exactly has changed from what was required below? What new information are they required to report?Since there are 10's of thousands of members I'm not sure it's too excessive. As far as weakening unions I still have not heard anything that comes close to this. IF you have the info please post but a little more paperwork, while maybe tedious, in no way weakens unions, unless you can give me an example.
 
cherokee said:
IF you have the info please post but a little more paperwork, while maybe tedious, in no way weakens unions, unless you can give me an example.
No, I have no specifics about what items must be reported in what format. Is that what you're looking for, so you can apply your accounting expertise to the question and determine if ALPA has a valid complaint?

120 pages versus 30,000 pages. That's 250 times more pages. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's an increase of 24,900 PER CENT. The OMB took 24 hours to review 35,000 comments before ruling in favor of this rule. "Little more paperwork"? Amazing.

ALPA will have to hire a large staff and devote a healthy chunk of cash JUST to produce this report, and no benefit will be realized. That's why it qualifies as harassment.

Now, try putting the shoes on your feet for a minute. How long did it take for you to complete your 1040 last spring? Do you think it would be fair for the IRS to reformat the 1040 so that you had to complete 500 pages, instead of 2? Do you think it would be fair to ask you to pay H&R Block $12,500 instead of $50? You can bet that would weaken my spending power, or rob me of time, or both.

If you can't see a problem with this, I can guess your overall view towards trade unions in general.
 
Since they raided the Social Security "Locked Box", I'm going to have to change my own diaper....so I got that going for me....which is nice.
So much for SOCIALISM in America.
 
siucavflight[/i] [b]Typhoon said:
Dude....quoting Top Gun?
No...that would've been "Slider...[sniff]...you stink." :D

I think I've offended siu in some way.

(By the way, what the heck does "siu-cav-flight" mean, anyway?)
 
WrightAvia,

I don't know if you know it, but Leon there in your avatar is a HUGE star in Japan. Icon status, even.
 

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