APA: No lump sums for retiring American Airlines pilots now

[Flopgut]

Privilege?

Working to 65 is the law. If a pilot is qualified, healthy and passes the check ride why not?

Pretty pathetic to see you gloating over the misfortune of others.

A 40 year old rule gets changed in a way that creates an enormous windfall to a very few, and someone like you doesn't feel privileged?

And you're calling this a "misfortune"!? At what point do you think an irline pilot should take responsibilty for something like this?

 

[Taco Rocket]

A 40 year old rule gets changed in a way that creates an enormous windfall to a very few, and someone like you doesn't feel privileged?

And you're calling this a "misfortune"!? At what point do you think an irline pilot should take responsibilty for something like this?

Me me me. AGE 70 -- sponsored by Depends

 

[kwick]

A 40 year old rule gets changed in a way that creates an enormous windfall to a very few, and someone like you doesn't feel privileged?

And you're calling this a "misfortune"!? At what point do you think an irline pilot should take responsibilty for something like this?

And they discriminated against minorities, and women, too.

So, no more age discrimination, either. There should be no age limit
if you can pass your physical.

And they changed that law against slavery, too.
Apparently you have a problem with "Equal Rights"

You would have been a great KKK member or Nazi!

 

[General Lee]

And they discriminated against minorities, and women, too.

So, no more age discrimination, either. There should be no age limit
if you can pass your physical.

And they changed that law against slavery, too.
Apparently you have a problem with "Equal Rights"

You would have been a great KKK member or Nazi!

In the Constitution it states you have to be at least 35 years old to run for US President. Isn't that age discrimination?


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Flopgut]

And they discriminated against minorities, and women, too.

So, no more age discrimination, either. There should be no age limit
if you can pass your physical.

And they changed that law against slavery, too.
Apparently you have a problem with "Equal Rights"

You would have been a great KKK member or Nazi!

Wow, that's real brilliant stuff there Kwick...

Let's stow the how/why of the change for a sec (because it's been talked about enough), and just talk about the effects and what we are left with today. Where is the appreciation for the rule change? Is anybody going to admit they feel lucky AND freely admit they are ready to pass it on at age 65? Any of you ready to see someone else take a turn?

And seriously, somewhere there has to be a cutoff for who's pension loss was a "misfortune" and who's was not.

 

[kwick]

In the Constitution it states you have to be at least 35 years old to run for US President. Isn't that age discrimination?


Bye Bye---General Lee

You can only serve two terms as President, eight years, so whether you start the job at 35 or 55, the law isn't forcing you to retire at a certain age.

 

[General Lee]

You can only serve two terms as President, eight years, so whether you start the job at 35 or 55, the law isn't forcing you to retire at a certain age.

But you can't get "hired" at 32. That is age discrimination. You are only talking about retirement, not me. You probably think there should be 70 year old firemen too, right? Let them go until they can't carry you out of a burning building anymore. There should be mandatory retirement ages for certain jobs, and airline pilot is one of them.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[jetflier]

But you can't get "hired" at 32. That is age discrimination. You are only talking about retirement, not me. You probably think there should be 70 year old firemen too, right? Let them go until they can't carry you out of a burning building anymore. There should be mandatory retirement ages for certain jobs, and airline pilot is one of them.


Bye Bye---General Lee

I have to agree with the General on this one!

There is no place to put a walker on an MD88 :O

 

[kwick]

But you can't get "hired" at 32. That is age discrimination. You are only talking about retirement, not me. You probably think there should be 70 year old firemen too, right? Let them go until they can't carry you out of a burning building anymore. There should be mandatory retirement ages for certain jobs, and airline pilot is one of them.


Bye Bye---General Lee

As long as you can pass the physical, which hopefully means that you
don't have to be carried to the airplane, the flying public deserves
the best ,most experienced pilots.

 

[Flopgut]

As long as you can pass the physical, which hopefully means that you
don't have to be carried to the airplane, the flying public deserves
the best ,most experienced pilots.

You had the chance to make that sort of change, and instead you welcomed a change that simply pulled the ladder up. Guess what? You walk into a Congressperson's office with that kind of thesis, they're not only going to laugh your a$$ out of their office, they're going to question the wisdom of raising the age in the first place.

You are a moron....

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

As long as you can pass the physical, which hopefully means that you
don't have to be carried to the airplane, the flying public deserves
the best ,most experienced pilots.

The older guys have been benefiting from age 60 their entire careers. Thats how they came to be 777 captains and so forth. Now that it was their turn to retire, they got the fence pushed back. Now youre crying age discrimination? Give me a f&$#ing break.

 

[spitfire1500]

As long as you can pass the physical, which hopefully means that you
don't have to be carried to the airplane, the flying public deserves
the best ,most experienced pilots.

Flight Physicals are a money making joke!!! I have had to babysit two over 60 guys...one proceeded on the departure brief to tell me how he was going to handfly to alt. and that handflying was a lost art....20 mins later..it was pretty quiet after I had to push the controls forward because we were about to blow through assigned alt. at 1500FPM...in Frankfurt airspace. There comes a time to hang it up.

 

[CorpCaptain]

Spoke with a friend today, he retired Nov 1. He is still waiting to hear whether or not he will receive his check. He's in a holding pattern till Jan 2. Happy to not be in his position sweating it out-

 

[tzskipper]

In the Constitution it states you have to be at least 35 years old to run for US President. Isn't that age discrimination?


Bye Bye---General Lee

Just to add some perspective, when the Constitution was adopted, the average life span was around 38 years old...

S

 

[HalinTexas]

In the Constitution it states you have to be at least 35 years old to run for US President. Isn't that age discrimination?


Bye Bye---General Lee

Not if the Constitution says it. Article II.

Also says you have to be a US born citizen.

 

[HalinTexas]

Just to add some perspective, when the Constitution was adopted, the average life span was around 38 years old...

S

And when Social Security was adopted in 1935 it was 60.

Google

 

[Flopgut]

Just to add some competing perspective: Our fellow RLA workers (actual railroad workers) enjoy full retirement at age 60.

Find somewhere to work as long as you want guys. Just don't do it by trading on someone elses career...

 

[General Lee]

Just to add some perspective, when the Constitution was adopted, the average life span was around 38 years old...

S

So, according to you, they wanted you to start at 35 but NOT fullfil your term because you were going to die at 38? SMART. They should have lowered the age to 30, so you could get in two terms (8 years) before you croaked........ How old were the early Presidents btw? Not 38. Sounds like your factoid is irrelevent.




Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Raoul Duke]

Can anyone confirm that AA can void any payments in the 90 days prior to the BK filing? I believe it is considered a preference payment or something like that. If I got that money inside the 90 days (assuming they actually cut a check or wired funds) it might be a good idea to get it offshore quickly.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

So, according to you, they wanted you to start at 35 but NOT fullfil your term because you were going to die at 38? SMART. They should have lowered the age to 30, so you could get in two terms (8 years) before you croaked........ How old were the early Presidents btw? Not 38. Sounds like your factoid is irrelevent.




Bye Bye---General Lee

22nd Amendment limited presidential term. Passed in '47, ratified in '51.