APA and USAPA seeks ALPA gains, shirk responsibility

[waveflyer]

Rez- what has that capHill presence bought us? In the end- ALPA has to start being worth the cost. There seems to be no plan to end the outsourcing that has decimated our career- and that will only be solved with a NATIONAL plan.

I don't demonize ALPA- but there must be a realization that results matter- and ALPA has not been getting results and seems very out of touch with their members.

 

[St. Nic]

ALPA is there for one reason- to survive. It only serves United and Delta, look at how USAir and Northwest were treated with the mergers. DOH was given up becasue the majority controlled by Delta and United stripped it out to gain an advantage during the impending mergers the two groups knew were coming. HOw classic, and self centered! We at USAir are ELATED to be out of ALPA

 

[waveflyer]

Actually 'st Nic- facts don't support that- and tell me why your ALPA MEC can make 93 LOAs affecting your money w/o a vote- when many alpa mec's must? And why did that not piss you off- but the Nic award did?
Your cart isn't just leading your horse- it's come unhinged and heading toward the canyon rim

 

[maru657]

Please take this with a grain of salt, I'm retired and out of the loop, but I have watched the steady downward process of the airline career over the years. For those of you who don't remember or never knew, the American pilot group left ALPA primarily over ALPA's dropping the proffessional flight engineers. It was an unfair move on ALPA's part followed by the acceptance of the airlines moving to adopt the commuter airline model. This was originally designed to have the commuters as part of the airline. Ofcourse de-regulation and greed changed that model. Now it's entertaining to watch the commuters buy the majors. I read today American, may spin off their redheaded stepchild, Eagle. This could be interesting, a stepchild big enough and with proper management to kick Papa's butt.

 

[Draginass]

As someone whose done both...doing 9 hours of flying in 11-12 hours of duty and 1-2 legs (think transcon turn) is SUBSTANTIALLY less fatiguing than anything in 14+ hours of duty.

The rule should STAY at 9 hours AND reduce the duty day. The greedy dolts at ALPA have suggested something that KILLS pilot jobs (think Caribbean turns with 9 hours of flying and a 3rd pilot required), not enhances them. Thanks DALPA, for trying to wreck what's left of the so-called profession.

 

[PCL_128]

The greedy dolts at ALPA have suggested something that KILLS pilot jobs (think Caribbean turns with 9 hours of flying and a 3rd pilot required), not enhances them.

ALPA's proposed Flight-Time/Duty-Time regulations would result in net neutral jobs at mainline and net additional jobs at regionals.

 

[LearLove]

Please take this with a grain of salt, I'm retired and out of the loop, but I have watched the steady downward process of the airline career over the years. .....Now it's entertaining to watch the commuters buy the majors.

yeah, real funny HA HA. I'm sure the Midwest guys are laughing themselves silly at the unemployment office while their flying (and careers) are being done for pennies by Republic kids that were playing with power rangers when the MW guys were hired.

 

[TWA Dude]

This is very amusing reading people argue about which union sucks worse. We're missing the big picture: without unity management always wins. IMO the only the only thing that unifies pilots is effective leadership and that has nothing to do with which alphabet-soup union de jour we're working under.

That being said I think it's clear non-ALPA unions are only popular at profitable airlines. As always, when times are good we love our union and when times are bad we blame them for not fixing everything.

 

[Draginass]

ALPA's proposed Flight-Time/Duty-Time regulations would result in net neutral jobs at mainline and net additional jobs at regionals.

Neutral?? BS. Depends on the mainline. Maybe at the ALPA airlines that have prostrated themselves in front of their managements and given away productivity and scope, but not all carriers.

DALPA wants a 9 hour fly day because the the senior guys that rule it can do longer day turns and work less days at the same flying time at the expense of everyone else. Just like giving away scope. Doesn't affect them, so screw the junior guys.

 

[denny]

We at USAir are ELATED to be out of ALPA

No we at USAirways are not. St Nic speaks for a weak minority and not the average US Airways pilot.