Anyone interviewing??

[pilotswife]

Hi All

Happy New Year!

Just wanted to touch base here and find out if any of the regionals are interviewing?

My husband is so depressed over not being in the sky- as many of you are as well.
I don't know what I can possibly do to help him. I know he has still not given up the dream, but the drugery of everyday work (he is working as an auto mechanic) is killing him!!

I would like to send his resume out for him (without him knowing), as I am having extreme difficulty living with a guy who is miserable on the ground.

I plan on returning to CO in June full time so that he can go back to flight instructing this summer...

He is just miserable to me and to our kids being in a job he can't stand. Sometimes I want to tell him to give up the dream or I am taking off...but I know that is not fair!!!!

Sorry to be such a cry baby, but it is hard standing where I am at!

I was just looking at aviation interviews. com and saw that Mesa is interviewing...
Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

In the mean time I am sick of having his happiness on hold-

Nicole :-(

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Hiring Now
AWAC
Comair
Chautauqua
Pinnacle (NW AIrlink)
Corporate Airlines
TSA
Mesa
AA Eagle
Cape Air
Skyway (Now called Midwest Connect?)
Jet Blue
AirTran
ATA
Frontier
AWA
Flight Options

Hiring Soon
ASA
Cont Exp (now Express Airlines?)

Not Sure
Chicago Express
Horizon
PSA
CommutAir
Colgan

Further down the road
SkyWest
FedEx
Mesaba
There are also a bunch of freight operators that are hiring, flying piston twins, Lears, Falcons, etc.

Cliff
DTW

 

[Dieterly]

He is just miserable to me and to our kids

Time to leave his sorry a$$!!!

 

[sky37d]

I understand completely. I have been grounded by money and my wife for months. Went out and flew yesterday. Short hop, but it was glorious to get in the air. My wife picked me up, and I was just happy as can be. Perfect, greaser, landing.

Suggestion, go rent a plane for him for an hour. It won't be the same, but I'll bet he'll come back happy

 

[pilotyip]

USA Jet interviewing

I don't know of his flt time etc. but USA Jet is interviewing for classes starting this spring. apply on-line at activeaero.com

 

[bobbysamd]

Job-hunting despair

I have found that the best antidote to job-hunting despair is to take control. By that I mean to send out materials. In so doing, you feel that you are at least trying to do something about your situation.

The internet helps to speed the process. Your husband can search by name every commuter airline and obtain their addresses and probably the name of the pilot recruiter. He should then send a resume and cover letter to all of them or follow the application procedure listed by the company. He can do the same thing with freight and 135 operators. In a couple of months, he can repeat the process. This could be a good time to do all this, with all the talk about the economy improving. In the meantime, as time permits, your husband can hand-deliver his resume to local operators.

The jobs don't come to you; you have to go to them.

Best wishes to you. Good luck to your husband.

PS-I, too, heard about seven weeks ago that Frontier is hiring, both pilots and FAs.

 

[Standby 1]

I just interviewed with Great Lakes, so he might consider getting his resume in there. It's my understanding that hiring there will intermittantly continue throughout the spring/summer, as needed, but I'm sure some Lakes pilots who post on this board can give more information for you.

Best of luck and stay the course!

 

[Astra Guy]

I have to agree with you bobbysamd. Anyone interested in playing a role in this business has to hit the bricks. Get educated and get your stuff out there. It is not an easy time in this business, like many others. You might be the best but unless you act as if you are motivated they surely won't be knocking at your door. Heck there may be a good corporate job out there as well at an airport near you, right now!

 

[DiamondJim]

Pilots wife,
I can feel your husbands pain. I to went throough a long hiatus from flying the last time hiring was so dismal. I was a miserable grouch and my wife went through what you are going through now. She convinced me that I needed to take control of my situation by actively searching in the way that BsamD aadvised you. What I did was add on the MEI rating and be around the airport. I did some instructing on the side to stay current and it also helped to have someone else pay for my flying (student). I then took a job with a company that owned a corporate jet. I worked hard making a good name for myself and got myself transfered to the corporate headcourters where the jet is. It took a little while but I am now flying that same Jet.

A wise old instructor once told me that to get hired in a good flying job is like getting struck by lightening. The trick is to be where the lightening strikes. Maybe he should quit turning wrenches on cars and turn wrenches on airplanes instead. I know that on my local airport there is a guy who took a job as a mechanics helper. After the requiered time he will obtain a sign off for his A&P rating. In the meantime he is also instructing. Most importantly he is where the lightening has a good chance of occuring. So my advice is to do some research and look for where the storm could be brewing and position yourselves for the ride of your lives. I was only a grouchy old machine operator. Now I'm still a machine operator but the view is much better and I'm a lot easier to get along with.

Best of luck, DJ

 

[pilotyip]

be nice

Now what did I tell you last time, if you can not say something nice, don't say anything at all.

 

[falcondriver]

Well give us some background, flight time, general area you are willing to live etc. We can't help if we don't know anything.
FD

 

[scubabri]

It amazes me that some people on this board can be total dicks. I wonder if they are like that in real life as well.. sheesh.

I would have to agree with Bobby, hit the pavement, internet, etc etc.

I'm on my 3rd job, ok, I flew skydivers, delivered king airs, and now I'm a flight instructor, but I found all, they didn't find me.

I've been working on setting up an Act! database with all the regionals, cargo and charter companies I can find, which helps me manage resumes that I send out and responses that I get.

Granted, I'm only at 1150 hours, but I know that using this tactic and the tactics in the "Job Hunting for Pilots" that when I am qualifed and being persistant, that I will find a job.

Here's the biggest problem that I think I've had to deal with, depression and frustration. These two just kill your motivation and it takes a lot to get it going and if you can't, they just suck you in more and more and more. Pretty soon it's too late. I'm single so the only person I have to worry about is me, in this particular case, I'm glad, I couldn't imagine dragging someone else through this.


Good luck

b

 

[Traumahawk]

Your feelings as a wife are just as understandable as his....
I hope my future spouse will take your route as opposed to others if I someday find myself in his position.

Good luck with the search, get him involved in his free time(if there is any), and then pat yourself on the back for sticking with him through better or worse. I'm sure he appreciates it deep down even though he might not show it.

T-hawk

 

[TurboS7]

There are men in this world, and I guess pilots, that aren't man enough to get a woman of their own. They have to slamm a woman's husband with the hope that she will she him as a knight in shinning armour. Ususally known as wife stealing............happens alot especially when you are on deployment.

 

[scubabri]

Oh!!! So that's how it's done I'll have to try that one

 

[CounterGirl]

Nicole,

I understand a little of what you're going through. Two years ago, my boyfriend (now fiance) was furloughed from Eagle and went through a period of depression that sent him into a quarter-life crisis. It was really hard for me to stand by and not be able to fully comprehend his pain, and most of all not be able to help him. This strained our relationship more than I'd like to admit. But eventually, about 9 months later, his job searching paid off and now he's working at the regionals again.

I understand you really want to help him, but you cannot take his career into your hands. Whether you like it or not, his pilot career is HIS career. All regionals seem to have their pros and cons, and unless you know exactly what company(ies) your husband would be happy to work for, it's probably not a good idea to send out his resume to just any regional that is hiring. You have to have a really good grasp on all of the factors like upgrade times, retirement, guaranteed hours, bases, junior manning, pay rates, etc. in order to make an informed decision about what company will be best for your husband and your family. Hey, if you have all that stuff down, then congrats to you and best of luck helping him out! But if not, you may end up doing more damage and garnering contempt or frustration from your husband if you forge ahead and and send resumes to the "wrong" airlines.

Also, sending his resume behind his back may not be well-received; it wouldn't feel like "his" achievement if anything were to come of it. I know nothing about you and your husband, and maybe he wouldn't react negatively at all to your assistance, but I do know that if he wants to get back into things and delve into a job search, it should be a decision he comes to himself, when he is ready--so that he can take ownership of conquering one of the most unfortunate pitfalls of the airline industry.

It may be that he feels like he's exhausted all airline job avenues and that's why he's depressed; in that case, be the best encourager you can be. Do some research to find leads, hand him the information and then let him do the rest. After all, it is HE who must get the motivation to gear up for an interview, that is something that you cannot do.

Most of all, you hang in there! I hope that this is a phase that ends, as it did for my fiance. Just give it time, and never give up being supportive, as you seem to be. It is natural that you and your children will feel the effects of your husband's unhappiness; but marriage is about being there for better or for worse. Remember, one day you may need his unwaivering support and understanding if, God forbid, you end up jobless.

Best Regards,
CG

Happy New Year to all!

 

[Timebuilder]

It amazes me that some people on this board can be total dicks. I wonder if they are like that in real life as well.. sheesh.

What do you expect? Do you read the rest of his posts?

Getting back to the problem at hand, take the advice offered above. Resumes at the ready, and a list of people he's never contacted to look for work are a good start. When he's not turning wrenches he should be poking around here and networking at the airport. We could probably be more helpful if we knew all the vital stats, like TT, multi, etc.

Until a job becomes a reality, suggest that he take as many of the ASE tests as he can so he can command top wage in his shop. With four master's certificates I was able to snag almost $22 per flat rate hour after five years in one shop. With the higher wage, he can afford to stay current and have some fun once in a while.

He's lucky to have someone who cares enough to ask for help here, instead of what one poster suggested.

 

[Cpt. Underpants]

Cathay Pacific (Hong Kong) also hiring. Minimum requirements ATP, multi, 1000 hours for Second Officer (cruise pilot/relief - NOT sideways - on B744 or A340), but current successful hires are at about 3000 hours. No training bond.

Net package for a new joiner is at US$90K per year, S/O for three years (at present), housing, medical and education allowance, superannuation all extras. F/O at $130K + a year, Captain at $250K +. Great flying. Work hard, play hard. Get to see Asia and Australasia, Europe, Africa and China, it would be perfect if the Company treated employees with a bit more respect, but it's almost the best out there.

Tell your boyfriend to send a resume' (CV) to:

[email protected] (Recruitment Manager)

 

[BRA]

what are the competitive times for cathay pacific?

 

[huncowboy]

It amazes me that some people on this board can be total dicks.

It amazes me that it amazes you . There are many people on this board who are frustrated for many reasons. Sure that does not grant the right to be a dick but this is a public forum so try to educate the public LOL.

On the subject I just wanted to say that I can somewhat understand your husband. I agree not flying makes a pilot wannabe/ or on furlough cranky. I am training only but there was a period when I have not seen an airplane between my IFR ticket and the Commercial for exactly 1 year. I had no $$ to fly. I was depressed and with an IFR ticket only you can't go job hunting. Not that with a commercial SEL you can. But every day you must do your non-flying job and have this feeling of being in a never ending loop. Not progressing (training wise or not getting the hours after you have all your training) while time keeps going by... extremely frustrating especially if you are a bit older.

But the advices in above posts make sense. He should take control.

 

[FlyingSig]

Research Help

Being an unemployed pilot sucks but most of us have been there. Only thing you can do is keep looking and keep applying. They'll never call you if you don't call them first. Set up a file system and keep track of who you call and if they even give you a courtesy reply or not. Take a day off from the shop and put on the suit and go door to door at the local big airport to the charter companies.... everybody (in Houston anyway) is running short staffed but business is picking up to the point where everybody is also going to be looking for help soon and if you happen to be in the right place at the right time you could find yourself sitting in the right seat of a Lear/Citation/King Air/etc...


Some research tools I used when I was looking (and still look at now and then to see if anything better pops up):

http://www.avcrew.com/jobs/pilots/jobs.htm

http://www.avemp.com/cgi-bin/dbm/db.cgi?db=employer&uid=default&new_records=1

http://www.aviationemployment.com/job-listings/list-jobs.cgi

http://www.aviationworldservices.com/joblist.htm

http://www.corporatepilot.com/jobspage.html

http://www.crewsourcellc.com/JobListings.htm

http://www.findapilot.com/jobs.htm

http://flipdog.monster.com/js/jobsearch-results.html?loc=world_US&job=1&rsrch=pilot&srch=aviation

http://www.pilotshack.com/EmploymentListing.html

http://www.pilots4rent.com/scgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?act=SC;c=3

http://www.usaviation.com/employment/default2.asp?tree=10


Good luck, hope it works out... it does to those that are persistant. All you can do is pass this on to your husband.... it's up to him to decide if he wants to be persistant.

 

[avoidingmyboss]

Cpt. Underpants

Do you fly for Cathay Pacific? and besides send a res. what else do you have to do to get on there?

 

[mwmav8r01]

Colgan is hiring, I got hired, I got my call today.

Matt

 

[English]

Hey Matt,

You DID read all the past posts on this board about Colgan...right?

There is a search function at the top of this page...please do yourself a favor and at the very least educate yourself before you start class. Just search "Colgan" and you'll find plenty.