anybody know anything about AT&T???

[TXAirHopper]

I just met some folks in a bar that work for AT&T. Some how we got on the subject of flying and then they told me about their fleet. Lots of Falcons. Anyone know anything about there company (more importantly about flying for them)???

 

[Gumby]

I just met some folks in a bar that work for AT&T. Some how we got on the subject of flying and then they told me about their fleet. Lots of Falcons. Anyone know anything about there company (more importantly about flying for them)???

They USED to have approx. 4 Falcons, they inherited a DA-50 when they bought the wireless unit out of Seattle a few years back. I understand that one of the MMU based 2000's made the trip to SAT recently with SBC's buyout. The only thing left in MMU should be a pair of GIV's, and a S-76, which will probably be sold in the future, and most everything moved to SAT.

 

[LegacyDriver]

I know a guy who works on the SBC side and he really likes it. Would be a fantastic job but it is a very competitive place to get aboard.

Never heard a bad word spoken about SBC. I don't know about ATT prior to the merger. I imagine it will still be a great place. They have some pretty good folks over there.

 

[TXAirHopper]

from talking to the folks that work there, they pay very good and the competion is nuts! i wish i had a way in!!

 

[LegacyDriver]

Me, too!!!!!!!!!!

 

[sydeseet]

Talked to one of their crews at FSI TEB. Both seemed to be top-notch and spoke favorably of the operation and the aircraft - they were on a 50EX. I was drooling over the chance to live in Central TX again but I've got a good thing going and it's a long way from where I am now. Still though, BBQ and floating down the river in New Braunfels......ahhh heaven.

What all did SBC fly before the buyout/merger?

 

[LegacyDriver]

I would cut off both testicles to get bck to San Antonio (Kerrville....mmmmmmm). Wouldn't be that much of a sacrifice. I am married so I don't own them anymore any way.

LOL

They were pretty much an all-Falcon 50 operation before the merger. I think the 900EX is in their future and possibly a 7X but don't quote me.

They also had a KSAT S-76 that was damaged by line service. It wss towed into a pothole and the boss got used to life without it so they sold it. Not sure about much else.

(Please PM me if anyone finds a KSAT or KAUS job any time soon. Desperate now... Must get home... Must...)

 

[freeflyer14]

I believe its 3 DA-50's, 2 DA-900's, and a 7X on order. With the AT&T acquisition, that gives them aother DA-2000, and 2 G-IV's. Don't quote me on that though...

 

[Gumby]

I would cut off both testicles to get bck to San Antonio (Kerrville....mmmmmmm). Wouldn't be that much of a sacrifice. I am married so I don't own them anymore any way.

LOL

They were pretty much an all-Falcon 50 operation before the merger. I think the 900EX is in their future and possibly a 7X but don't quote me.

They also had a KSAT S-76 that was damaged by line service. It wss towed into a pothole and the boss got used to life without it so they sold it. Not sure about much else.

(Please PM me if anyone finds a KSAT or KAUS job any time soon. Desperate now... Must get home... Must...)

I heard that the GIV's may not be in the big picture! SBC/SAT got onto EASy street over a year ago, so I think the DFJ toys will be there for awhile....Sorry G200...Someone likes the DFJ toys besides me....

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I heard that the GIV's may not be in the big picture! SBC/SAT got onto EASy street over a year ago, so I think the DFJ toys will be there for awhile....Sorry G200...Someone likes the DFJ toys besides me....

hey I like my DFJ toys too...but when you're done playing and have to really go somewhere, ya gotta put the toys away!



PS might see ya over there soon...cant stay current!

 

[LegacyDriver]

If it isn't a Falcon it isn't in the big picture at SBC from what I hear. They definitely like the Frogship.

 

[2EASYPilot]

Love the frogships but have occasional issues with the frogs themselves....

 

[Gumby]

hey I like my DFJ toys too...but when you're done playing and have to really go somewhere, ya gotta put the toys away!



PS might see ya over there soon...cant stay current!

AGAIN!?!?!? WTFO??? Maybe you should sub for Ricey? I'm thinking he would give up a leg on his ride just for you!!!:smash:

 

[Gumby]

Looks like MaBell is coming back!

AT&T to Acquire BellSouth for $67 Billion
By HARRY R. WEBER, AP


ATLANTA (March 5) - AT&T Inc. is buying BellSouth Corp. for $67 billion in stock in a bid that further consolidates the telecommunications industry and would give AT&T total control of their growing joint venture, Cingular Wireless LLC.

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The proposed purchase, announced Sunday, also goes a long way toward resurrecting the old Ma Bell telephone system, which was broken apart in 1984.
The deal appears to be the largest U.S. telecom merger ever.
In 1999, MCI WorldCom Inc. agreed to buy Sprint Corp. for an even larger sum, $115 billion, but that deal was blocked by federal regulators. Internationally, Britain's Vodafone Airtouch PLC paid $180 billion in stock for Mannesmann AG of Germany in 2000.
The sale, which is subject to regulatory and shareholder approvals, would give San Antonio-based AT&T total control over Atlanta-based BellSouth's nine-state network and its share of Cingular. AT&T currently owns a 60 percent share of the nation's No. 1 cell phone provider, while BellSouth has 40 percent.
The deal would substantially expand the reach of AT&T, already the country's largest telecommunications company by the number of customers served.
Together, the three companies employ more than 316,000 people, though that head count may fall as AT&T eliminates redundant operations.
After spending millions of dollars to rebrand AT&T Wireless Services Inc. stores as Cingular stores and hundreds of millions of dollars more on marketing the new Cingular after its $41 billion acquisition of AT&T Wireless in October 2004, Cingular will now become AT&T if the merger with BellSouth is completed.
The BellSouth name also would be absorbed in the deal.
"It's going to be confusing," said industry analyst Jeff Kagan. "This is the reinvention of the telecommunications industry."
AT&T will pay 1.325 of its own shares for each BellSouth share. Based of Friday's closing price of $27.99 for AT&T shares, that works out to be $37.09 for each BellSouth share, an 18 percent premium from the Friday closing price of $31.46 for the company.
AT&T Inc. was formed by SBC's acquisition of AT&T Corp. in November. The deal added a substantial national reach to the former Southwestern Bell's local business, which is concentrated in 13 states, including Texas, California, and the Midwest.
BellSouth is the dominant local telephone provider in the Southeast.
The shift in the U.S. telecom landscape - moving from four to three regional Bell operators - is sure to garner close review from Washington.
"Twenty years after the government broke up Ma Bell, this deal represents a mother and child reunion," said Rep. Ed Markey, the ranking Democrat on the House Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet.
"Our nation's telecommunications markets must be vigorously competitive and open to innovation in order to promote job creation and economic growth," Markey said. "This merger proposal is one that unquestionably merits the utmost scrutiny by government antitrust officials."
Cingular spokesman Mark Siegel dismissed the notion there would be public perception issues with the switch back to the AT&T name for the wireless company.
"We built a business," Siegel said. "Is the brand an important part of that business? Yes. But it is a business that is made primarily up of people. None of that changes."
Siegel said sole ownership by AT&T "gives us clarity of decision-making, and that is a good thing."
With cable companies increasingly vying for traditional phone companies' share of local telephone service, such mergers in the industry have been commonplace of late. Kagan, the industry analyst, said more could be on the horizon.
"We're not over it yet," Kagan said.
The merged company would have 70 million local-line phone customers and nearly 10 million broadband subscribers.
The combined company will be based in San Antonio, and Ed Whitacre, AT&T's chairman and chief executive, will keep those positions. His counterpart at BellSouth, Duane Ackerman, 63, will run BellSouth's operations in a "transition period" after the merger.
Cingular's headquarters will stay in Atlanta, as will the Southeast regional headquarters for the merged company.
Cingular has grown strongly since it was formed in 2001 by the merger of a number of regional wireless carriers, and there has been speculation that AT&T wanted to assume full control of this growth business, in part to be able to market it under the AT&T name.
The wireless operations will be the growth engine of the new company, and will account for one third of the combined revenue.
AT&T expects the acquisition to save it $2 billion annually, starting the year after the deal closes. About half of the savings would come from reduced advertising expenses and from combining their work forces.
The rest of the savings would come from combining the backbone network and information-technology operations of the two companies.
AP Technology Writer Peter Svensson contributed to this report from New York.

AP-ES-03-05-06 1703EST:smash:

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[LegacyDriver]

Oh boy... Does Cingular have a flight dept?

I hope this means an expansion in KSAT for pilots.

 

[Gumby]

Oh boy... Does Cingular have a flight dept?

I hope this means an expansion in KSAT for pilots.

Yep, some 900's, both B's, and EASy's....

 

[G4G5]

I spoke with a buddy of mine who was doing some part time with ATT. He said that they stopped using part timers and were down to using just a G4. He felt that it was only a matter of time before the place was going to be shut down.

 

[AA717driver]

I spoke with a buddy of mine who was doing some part time with ATT. He said that they stopped using part timers and were down to using just a G4. He felt that it was only a matter of time before the place was going to be shut down.

Yeah, it's tough to justify a flight department when you just dropped $67B on another telecom... TC

 

[sleepy]

Cingular and BellSouth share a hanger at FTY in Atlanta. Cingular was a 50/50 partnership between BS and SBC. I guess ATT will own it all now. They have a very nice hanger, it is the biggest on the field (once belonged to RJR). BellSouth had a DA-900, severall DA-50's, some Citations, and a DO-328. Cingular had a pair of DA-900's.

BellSouth has a good reputation as a place to work. They use the DO to run a daily shuttle to BHM. I have not heard anything about what will happen to them. I would guess that the Cingular operation will stay in Atlanta. No telling if ATT will keep any of the BS aircraft around (but I hope so for the sake of their department). My guess is that it can't be good for the BellSouth people.