Any word on Horizon hiring?

[skylane1978]

Has anybody out there heard anything from Horizon recently?

Any info is greatly appreciated

 

[citabriapilot]

Two of my fellow Freight Doggin' comrades got picked up by Horizon this month. Several more have been offered interviews. Sounds like something is going on...

 

[QXbuzzard]

We are hiring due to attrition only right now. Doesn't sound like anything on the horizon(he he) for anything big happening here.

 

[rke44]

Let me give you a bit of advice. Don't come to work at Horizon unless the sole reason is to live in the Seattle/Portland area. Trust me, you'll thank me in 3 years when all of your colleagues that came here are barely holding a line in the Q200 as an FO while you are finishing upgrade class on an RJ at some other regional. Don't get me wrong, QX is a good company, but in todays regional airline environment the lack of advancement supercedes any benefits/pay that may exist here.

Sincerely,

A Q200 FO sweating his a$$ off doing 6-8 leg days for the past 5 1/2 years while new hire CRJ FOs with 1500 hrs get more days off.

 

[P-Dawg_QX]

A Q200 FO sweating his a$$ off doing 6-8 leg days for the past 5 1/2 years while new hire CRJ FOs with 1500 hrs get more days off. Especially those in DIA with the initials AC

Do I detect a wee bit of bitterness there?
Amazing what can happen when you have...uhh...connections.

 

[coolyokeluke]

Let me give you a bit of advice. Don't come to work at Horizon unless the sole reason is to live in the Seattle/Portland area. Trust me, you'll thank me in 3 years when all of your colleagues that came here are barely holding a line in the Q200 as an FO while you are finishing upgrade class on an RJ at some other regional. Don't get me wrong, QX is a good company, but in todays regional airline environment the lack of advancement supercedes any benefits/pay that may exist here.

Sincerely,

A Q200 FO sweating his a$$ off doing 6-8 leg days for the past 5 1/2 years while new hire CRJ FOs with 1500 hrs get more days off.

Do you mean that Horizon doesn't do promotion via seniority? Or do you mean somebody at a different company.
I tried for a long time to get some traction on my resume at Horizon, the best I ever did was a postcard reply acknowleging my resume was in the pile. I wanted to work there since I'm from the NW. Now I'm at a good company, the upgrades will probably be slow also, but at least not glacially slow.

 

[PumpkinPony]

Do you mean that Horizon doesn't do promotion via seniority?

You are hired into whatever airplane the company wants you in; you get paid on what your senority would hold. i.e. new RJ FO's in DEN are getting Dash 200 pay. As an FO, you can choose to bid an opening at a new base/new airplane, but if you do, they dump you back to the bottom of the pay scale and lock you there for two years.

 

[Yank McCobb]

You are hired into whatever airplane the company wants you in; you get paid on what your senority would hold. i.e. new RJ FO's in DEN are getting Dash 200 pay. As an FO, you can choose to bid an opening at a new base/new airplane, but if you do, they dump you back to the bottom of the pay scale and lock you there for two years.

And the Teamsters at Horizon agreed to this ridiculous policy and the pilots at Horizon accepted it (along with some other real doozies that are in this sham of a "contract" that they work under). Personally I would be embarrassed to admit it and would be doing everything within my power to recall those responsible for this abomination of a contract and get someone in there with even HALF a clue.

Then educate the pilot group so that something ridiculous like this doesn't happen again next time.

Save your breath. I've heard the "first contract" BS enough already.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

And the Teamsters at Horizon agreed to this ridiculous policy and the pilots at Horizon accepted it (along with some other real doozies that are in this sham of a "contract" that they work under). Personally I would be embarrassed to admit it and would be doing everything within my power to recall those responsible for this abomination of a contract and get someone in there with even HALF a clue.

Then educate the pilot group so that something ridiculous like this doesn't happen again next time.

Save your breath. I've heard the "first contract" BS enough already.

grumble grumble grumble

 

[regionaltard]

And the Teamsters at Horizon agreed to this ridiculous policy and the pilots at Horizon accepted it (along with some other real doozies that are in this sham of a "contract" that they work under). Personally I would be embarrassed to admit it and would be doing everything within my power to recall those responsible for this abomination of a contract and get someone in there with even HALF a clue.

Then educate the pilot group so that something ridiculous like this doesn't happen again next time.

Save your breath. I've heard the "first contract" BS enough already.

Thanks for taking time out from your Dungeons and Dragons game to weigh in. Now run along son and do your chores; living in Gram's basement may be cheap, but it ain't free...........

 

[k_EAT=ho_ME]

And the Teamsters at Horizon agreed to this ridiculous policy and the pilots at Horizon accepted it (along with some other real doozies that are in this sham of a "contract" that they work under). Personally I would be embarrassed to admit it and would be doing everything within my power to recall those responsible for this abomination of a contract and get someone in there with even HALF a clue.

Then educate the pilot group so that something ridiculous like this doesn't happen again next time.

Take your best shot and live with it. DO NOT LOOK BACK. There is nothing to see behind you.

Retirement getting old already?

 

[flythere]

Any Q-200 guys/gals,

Can you give me an idea of what reserve life is like in SEA & PDX??

What are the call out times, airport reserve vs sitting at home??

what kind of pay while sitting reserve, how much flying do you average a month.

What about days on vs days off??

Thanks

 

[Southbound]

Hey Yanky,
Did you work @ QX? Did it spoil you on life and bring you to your current level of misery? I need to get out before I end up like you.

 

[QCappy]

Any Q-200 guys/gals,

Can you give me an idea of what reserve life is like in SEA & PDX??

What are the call out times, airport reserve vs sitting at home??

what kind of pay while sitting reserve, how much flying do you average a month.

What about days on vs days off??

Thanks

You get 12 days off in a 35 day period. They can, and usually do, switch your reserve periods from AM to PM at will. The call out time is two hours from home. Airport reserve is 8 hours in the dungeon per day, but you are usually home at night. Right now everyone is flying their butt off.

As far as pay. Check this site http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com They have everyones stuff there. Take the rate x86.3x10.4 and that is your min guarantee for the year plus about $2000-5000 of per-diem.

 

[m4j2t]

I want to work @ Horizon

I am seriously considering horizon. Mainley because I want to live in the NW. Why is upgrade so slow? Are ppl not moving on to bigger and better, or do they hire street captains. What's the deal? I hear good things about the company, but ppl say it's a career killer. I would like to understand the culture, so any more info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to all who have posted so far!

 

[Southbound]

To answer your questions, upgrade is slow because few pilots leave because they like living in the NW and as a 400 or CRJ captain the pay is as high as they come for a regional (sad state of affairs). Also, there is NO growth of the seniority list. There are around 700 pilots,the same number we had 7 years ago. No hiring of street captains.

 

[Hpilot]

Best of luck

Unless you're living at mom and dad's be prepared to find a second job. I know two guys that left Horizon to fly corporate, because living in the Seattle area on Horizon pay is tough. For what it's worth though, if you can tough it out the pay gets better after 6-7yrs as a captain and you won't have to commute. By then you'll probably never leave.....which isn't a bad thing.

 

[FlyinScotsman]

I don't understand why it would be a "career killer". What better experience could you gain outside of a CAT III single engine qualified regional carrier!?

Let's see.....a 5.5yr FO and he has no end in sight! W/O Capt time you are stuck or you change your profession! That's a "career killer" for anyone who might want out of Horizon for a major or for that matter a life. Try living on FO pay for that long, it might just be a "marriage killer" too!

 

[Paul R. Smith]

Let me give you a bit of advice. Don't come to work at Horizon unless the sole reason is to live in the Seattle/Portland area. Trust me, you'll thank me in 3 years when all of your colleagues that came here are barely holding a line in the Q200 as an FO while you are finishing upgrade class on an RJ at some other regional. Don't get me wrong, QX is a good company, but in todays regional airline environment the lack of advancement supercedes any benefits/pay that may exist here.

Sincerely,

A Q200 FO sweating his a$$ off doing 6-8 leg days for the past 5 1/2 years while new hire CRJ FOs with 1500 hrs get more days off.

I beg to differ...I'm still pondering jumpin ship and moving to Horizon, but only if I get hired into the Q200. I will concede that going back to FO pay (even though Horizon is competitive) would royally suck especially since SEA is an expensive area. But it took me 5 years to upgrade and I still miss the pac NW. I would make horizon my home if I made the move. Just different strokes for different folks. Not everybody is a Turbine PIC seeking missle.

 

[flying4food]

I beg to differ... Not everybody is a Turbine PIC seeking missle.

Me, I'm a heat seeking moisture missle!!!!