any ufo,s sightings

[rumpletumbler]

Men from outerspace travel at the speed of light to come here and do donuts in corn fields and then go home without saying hello.

lol! That were magnificent.

 

[Princedietrich]

Come on people. We all know that this planet is nothing more than a big organic based computer, supervised by mice, that has been trying for over 7 million years to figure out why the answer to life the universe and everything is 42.

 

[Milkdud99]

I could go on and on and on but you get the idea.

oh..... but i dont!


so your saying that the US spends a TON of money to keep this boring piece of desert secure?? Now im not one that believe it is aliens or anything like that, i think it is the future of aviation, and military that goes on behind the scenes of area 51!

If you deny that then you've gotta do some research!

 

[rumpletumbler]

Well sure there are some nice toys there but nothing resembling "unbelievable" and that was my point.

 

[rfeathe1]

I never believed in UFOs until I saw one at night over Hammond/Gary, In. Made a believer out of me.

 

[Metro752]

I was abducted 40 miles south of Roswell on the side of the highway overnight in the family RV. I had a scar on my left knee the next morning, and still have it today.

Creeeeeeeeeeeeepy

 

[PCL_128]

Well sure there are some nice toys there but nothing resembling "unbelievable" and that was my point.

At least somebody gets it. UFOs, abductions, Area 51, and all the other conspiracy theory nonsense is really getting old. Don't you people think that somebody would have some conclusive proof after an alleged 60+ years of sightings and abductions? Where are all these implants? Where's the gov't whistle-blower willing to "tell all?" Where is the clear video of the UFOs? We got very clear hand-held video from multiple angles of the planes hitting the WTC on 9/11, but after 60+ years we can't get a single video of UFOs or aliens that isn't out of focus or blocked by some obstructions? Give me a break. How can any logical person believe this crap?

 

[Metro752]

Government Whistle Blower.................. I would bet anyone employed their knows of the ramifications of ratting out any secrets. It is the government, and it will go to any means necessary to keep things secret. Got a family? Like your family? Good.

 

[TDTURBO]

If anyone thinks we are alone in this infinite universe I have news for ya. It was mathematically proven that the chances that we are the only life in the universe are trillions to one. I keep an open mind on such things, I have seen one up close 1/2 mile hovering with no noise over our lake in Michigan shaped like a cigar and lights across it about 100 yards long. It stayed for 30 seconds and it was gone, weird.

 

[PCL_128]

If anyone thinks we are alone in this infinite universe I have news for ya. It was mathematically proven that the chances that we are the only life in the universe are trillions to one.

Read the book "Rare Earth." There is much mathematical theory out there that proves the exact opposite. Hypothetically, even if your math proves that life exists out there in the universe, that doesn't mean that it has visited us here on Earth. Again, I have to go back to the questions I asked earlier: where is the proof? After decades upon decades of "sightings" and "abductions" we still have no compelling evidence. I think that speaks volumes.

 

[@irboss]

If anyone thinks we are alone in this infinite universe I have news for ya. It was mathematically proven that the chances that we are the only life in the universe are trillions to one. I keep an open mind on such things, I have seen one up close 1/2 mile hovering with no noise over our lake in Michigan shaped like a cigar and lights across it about 100 yards long. It stayed for 30 seconds and it was gone, weird.

I pretty much think this is a good place to talk about this topic, specialy with people that have seen strange unexplainable flying things,and most of all pilots; that know pretty much whats out there in our troposphere.
Definetly there must be more inteligence in our universe, its really dumb to think that we humans are alone in this undifined lenght of life,and space.


ps. there just are things that are not human made that are flying out there i have seen it with my own eyes, and if it was human it would have to be from our future, that is just coming back now and visiting its hisory.

 

[C601]

Read the book "Rare Earth." There is much mathematical theory out there that proves the exact opposite. Hypothetically, even if your math proves that life exists out there in the universe, that doesn't mean that it has visited us here on Earth. Again, I have to go back to the questions I asked earlier: where is the proof? After decades upon decades of "sightings" and "abductions" we still have no compelling evidence. I think that speaks volumes.

Alot of interesting things have happened since that book was released. Lets just say, Never say never.

 

[TDTURBO]

Read the book "Rare Earth." There is much mathematical theory out there that proves the exact opposite. Hypothetically, even if your math proves that life exists out there in the universe, that doesn't mean that it has visited us here on Earth. Again, I have to go back to the questions I asked earlier: where is the proof? After decades upon decades of "sightings" and "abductions" we still have no compelling evidence. I think that speaks volumes.

Don't kid yourself, any "proof" would be instantly confiscated by the government and reversed engineered, no way they would let you keep it or let the news show it without severe penalty. I am not saying I believe in UFO's or not, all I can say is what I saw, I keep an open mind.

BTW: Show me where it is shown mathematically opposite of what I posted.

 

[labbats]

One time Scully and I saw the smoking man. We told him to put it out before he boarded.

 

[PCL_128]

BTW: Show me where it is shown mathematically opposite of what I posted.

Like I said, read "Rare Earth." The authors go into much detail about the mathematics involved. Basically, the probability of a planet being at just the right position from a star, with just the right mass, with just the right amount of water, etc... is really quite low. Microbes are probably quite abundant throughout the universe, but complex life is probably rare, if existent at all outside of Earth. There are just too many variables that must be perfect for complex life to exist.

 

[FN FAL]

I was abducted 40 miles south of Roswell on the side of the highway overnight in the family RV. I had a scar on my left knee the next morning, and still have it today.

Creeeeeeeeeeeeepy

Tell us more about the anal probation?

 

[TDTURBO]

Like I said, read "Rare Earth." The authors go into much detail about the mathematics involved. Basically, the probability of a planet being at just the right position from a star, with just the right mass, with just the right amount of water, etc... is really quite low. Microbes are probably quite abundant throughout the universe, but complex life is probably rare, if existent at all outside of Earth. There are just too many variables that must be perfect for complex life to exist.

Carl Sagan(SP?) is smarter than me and just about everybody else on earth and he said otherwise, I will give it a read though, thanks for the info.

 

[staledog]

It is very evident that there are no aliens visiting this planet. There would be tangible proof by this point. Someone would have gotten a decent photo or film or other evidence. All these morons who claim to have been abducted and then given an implant and then had the implant removed.....where are the implants? Do they throw them all in the trash? I mean theres your proof. In reality though it proves that it didn't happen because no one can produce one. I'd be the first in line for some space nucci if it were here, but it ain't.

i think you work for the govt and yer job is to make people believe there are no aliens. you know they are out there.

back to the original question though, before this whole big debate. yeah i saw one last year flying the baron in the middle of the night. (while listening to coast-to-coast am, no less. right in front of me, big triangle shaped thing with three bright white lights, one at each corner. i thought some other plane was trying to play chicken with me with his landing lights on at first. then it moved across the sky, and vanished. crystal clear night, too. from what i hear this thing has been sighted a lot in the last few years around the midwest.

 

[PCL_128]

Carl Sagan(SP?) is smarter than me and just about everybody else on earth and he said otherwise, I will give it a read though, thanks for the info.

Sagan is actually discussed somewhat in the book. There are many problems with Sagan's formula that calculated million of possible intelligent lifeforms just in our galaxy alone. His formula was basically one of wishful thinking. Many assumptions were made on his part, and "Rare Earth" aims to address that. I'm certainly not saying that life outside of Earth is impossible, just highly unlikely.

 

[TDTURBO]

Believe none of what you read and half of what you see, I saw, so I am half way there.

 

[rumpletumbler]

i think you work for the govt and yer job is to make people believe there are no aliens. you know they are out there.

It's me!

 

[PCL_128]

Believe none of what you read and half of what you see, I saw, so I am half way there.

Believe it or not, as much of a non-believer in ET life as I am, I've actually seen some weird things a time or two that made me wonder. One time down in FLL really freaked me out for a little while. I saw 3 metallic-looking objects thousands of feet up that just seemed to hang in mid-air. They stayed there for about 20 minutes before I had to go inside to customs. I don't know what happened to them since I didn't get to stay and watch. The Captain I was flying with was kind of amazed by it too. As strange as it was, I still have to conclude that it was nothing but a visual illusion or some sort of military application. Several military bases in Florida have used saucer-shaped UAVs for a decade or more. There were many reports in the early 90s of "flying saucers" on the Florida gulf coast that ended up being military UAVs. There were frequent sightings in the Nevada desert back in the 80s of "triangle-shaped craft that made strange noises" that turned out to be the F-117. There's always a logical explanation, it just takes time to find it sometimes.

 

[Flechas]

Hahaha, this is one of the funniest threads lately!!!!

 

[Milkdud99]

Sagan is actually discussed somewhat in the book. There are many problems with Sagan's formula that calculated million of possible intelligent lifeforms just in our galaxy alone. His formula was basically one of wishful thinking. Many assumptions were made on his part, and "Rare Earth" aims to address that. I'm certainly not saying that life outside of Earth is impossible, just highly unlikely.

ever hear of adaptation???

 

[rumpletumbler]

i thought some other plane was trying to play chicken with me with his landing lights on at first. then it moved across the sky, and vanished. crystal clear night, too.

The victory was yours!

 

[funky]

http://www.childrencomefirst.com/starcount.shtml

You do the math. There are more stars (read "Suns" / Solar Systems) out there than grains of sand on our Earth.

I'm not making this up. Google it...

You have to be quite naive to think that only 1 of those stars' systems contains intelligent lifeforms. But then again, people on Earth still believe that oil will never run out...

 

[Some guy]

I saw lots of lights one night. Ended up blacking out. I have no idea how I got to my hotel room. No scars or anything, but I managed to lose $300 in cash.

I guess that happens from time to time in Vegas.

 

[Flechas]

I've been abducted a couple times too, sometime around 1 AM. Only to find myself in the tub at 7 AM. Don't even remember the lights.

 

[Metro752]

I dont remember any anal probe.

 

[Sim Sweat]

Back to the original question, and away from all the Twilight Zone stuff, we had a bizarre sighting one night in the Northeast Corridor. Asked the other guy in the front, "Do you see that?" and he said, "No, I'm not seeing this." Called the FA up front and asked her, and she just stood there with her jaw on her chest.
So now it's time to ask ATC, and their answer: "No sir, we're not showing any targets but you out there."
Game over.
Never mentioned it to anyone else.