Any Scoop on what Delta's "New Business Plan" June 12th (Thurs) Announcement Will Be?

[Voice Of Reason]

Any Scoop on what Delta's "New Business Plan" June 12th (Thurs) Announcement Will Be?

Is tomorrow still the day (Thurs. June 12th) of the big "New Business Plan" announcement, or will it be Friday after bell closing (which is never a good sign)?

 

[General Lee]

Is tomorrow still the day (Thurs. June 12th) of the big "New Business Plan" announcement, or will it be Friday after bell closing (which is never a good sign)?

I thought it was tomorrow, the 12th. I have no clue what it will say, but Ed Bastain has made statements lately (to the NWA MEC for example on June 3rd) that have stated no pilot furloughs. We shall see I guess. I hope they can more RJs and add more INTL routes. Sounds like what they have been doing lately, although that wouldn't be a "new business plan" if they have been doing that lately..... Maybe it will be the opposite---buy more 50 seaters and add more domestic flights with them, to a never ending loss.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Voice Of Reason]

I thought it was tomorrow, the 12th.
Bye Bye--General Lee

Yes, like I said...tomorrow, Thurs June 12th.
:erm:

 

[General Lee]

Yes, like I said...tomorrow, Thurs June 12th.
:erm:

You also said it could be Friday after the bell. I said it would be tomorrow. You're welcome.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Tanker Clown]

It's a brand new idea. It's a new and improved airline within an airline. It will be called Sang. They'll paint the jets a gawd awful color and then undo the whole thing a couple of years later. The key to it will be making sure that retards like Gerbil Lee tell everyone it's going to rule.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

You also said it could be Friday after the bell. I said it would be tomorrow. You're welcome.

Bye Bye--General Lee

I said "or will it be Friday...." as in delay, delay, delay as per usual M.O. (Friday after bell meaning no good agreement in sight for the merger internally).
No need for the "you're welcome," I know how it kills you...

 

[Voice Of Reason]

This message is hidden because Tanker Clown is on your ignore list.

Oh Gahd...someone normal reply please?

 

[Tanker Clown]

Maybe it's an airline within and airline within an airline. So it will go Delta, Song, then Turd. Turd will be like Delta in the fact that their lavs stink and the pilots can't stay on taxiways...but they won't charge to check the second bag.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Company Spokesman Lee Moak Addresses his Public each day

Looks like your whole "Team" Met Today... 1hr ago article AJC

ajc.com > Business > Delta
Northwest, Delta pilot reps still talking

By KELLY YAMANOUCHI
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 06/11/08Union negotiators representing pilots from Northwest Airlines and Delta Air Lines met Wednesday in Atlanta to continue discussions for joint contract negotiations with Delta.
Atlanta-based Delta and Eagan, Minn.-based Northwest are working toward their proposed merger announced in April.
Delta's pilots ratified a labor agreement in May that includes annual pay raises, which would take effect if the merger is completed.
Northwest's pilots union leadership has told members it wants immediate pay parity. Lee Moak, chairman of the Delta Air Line Pilots Association unit, said: "I'm confident that will be the joint position of the team."uke:<--(ed--Attn Lee Moak STFU already)

In a filing to the U.S. Department of Transportation last week, Northwest's pilots union said that, without a contract including Northwest pilots, "the annual costs from labor friction in both Delta's and Northwest's pilot groups will be substantial, and the supposed gains from the merger will only diminish."

 

[General Lee]

This message is hidden because Tanker Clown is on your ignore list.

Along with Jmoney, those two ignores are the best two things I have EVER done on this board. Worthless trash.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Looks like your whole "Team" Met Today... 1hr ago article AJC

ajc.com > Business > Delta
Northwest, Delta pilot reps still talking

By KELLY YAMANOUCHI
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 06/11/08Union negotiators representing pilots from Northwest Airlines and Delta Air Lines met Wednesday in Atlanta to continue discussions for joint contract negotiations with Delta.
Atlanta-based Delta and Eagan, Minn.-based Northwest are working toward their proposed merger announced in April.
Delta's pilots ratified a labor agreement in May that includes annual pay raises, which would take effect if the merger is completed.
Northwest's pilots union leadership has told members it wants immediate pay parity. Lee Moak, chairman of the Delta Air Line Pilots Association unit, said: "I'm confident that will be the joint position of the team."uke:<--(ed--Attn Lee Moak STFU already)

In a filing to the U.S. Department of Transportation last week, Northwest's pilots union said that, without a contract including Northwest pilots, "the annual costs from labor friction in both Delta's and Northwest's pilot groups will be substantial, and the supposed gains from the merger will only diminish."

Lee Moak STFU? I think he knows a bit more of what is going on then you do. Immediate pay parity would be fine. The problem will be when the new Delta starts parking DC9s and 742s, and their pilots start moving down to Compass. Our DL pilots shouldn't have to hit the street for possible parkings of THEIR airplanes. If some of our MD88s etc get parked, then I can understand that.(we are new 777s and 73NGs in the meantime, though) But, our guys shouldn't have to leave if their NWA planes go to the desert. If that isn't addressed in our "joint contract" with regards to scope and minimum mainline planes on the property, then that is ALSO the fault of both MECs.....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Lee Moak STFU? I think he knows a bit more of what is going on then you do. Immediate pay parity would be fine. The problem will be when the new Delta starts parking DC9s and 742s, and their pilots start moving down to Compass. Our DL pilots shouldn't have to hit the street for possible parkings of THEIR airplanes. If some of our MD88s etc get parked, then I can understand that.(we are new 777s and 73NGs in the meantime, though) But, our guys shouldn't have to leave if their NWA planes go to the desert. If that isn't addressed in our "joint contract" with regards to scope and minimum mainline planes on the property, then that is ALSO the fault of both MECs.....

Bye Bye--General Lee

Leave the same old repeat mode bs on the 90 other threads you wrote it on. I didn't ask for your pontificating about sh*t, I asked if anyone had semi-remotely reliable scoop on tomorrow's (alleged) announcement.
As for Lee Moak, he is an embarrassment to Alpa and is in NO position to be the mouthpiece/PR man for the company. His goal seems to be getting his name in the paper as much as possible...odd for a UNION "chairman".

 

[Draginass]

The "Plan" or the "Real Plan?"

The "Plan" is no furloughs, great growth, big profits.

The "Real Plan" is make a zillion dollars for the company execs, have massive furloughs especially at NW, park the DC9s and transfer the widebodies to Delta and make a zillion dollars for the company execs. Oh, I said that already. OK, two zillion dollars for the company execs. The zillion dollar part is followed by the "surprise" revelation that the integration costs of the merger are much steeper than expected and fuel costs are way up, and that very deep concessions are demanded from DALPA . . . . which they genuflect to, as usual. The NW guys are still militant, but there's not enough left to influence events. DAL eventually files BK again, just before which the executive make another zillion dollars for sticking around a few months to get the BK started.

Is there anybody out there that is stupid enough to actually believe Anderson and Steenland?????

 

[Tanker Clown]

The "Plan" or the "Real Plan?"

The "Plan" is no furloughs, great growth, big profits.

The "Real Plan" is make a zillion dollars for the company execs, have massive furloughs especially at NW, park the DC9s and transfer the widebodies to Delta and make a zillion dollars for the company execs. Oh, I said that already. OK, two zillion dollars for the company execs. The zillion dollar part is followed by the "surprise" revelation that the integration costs of the merger are much steeper than expected and fuel costs are way up, and that very deep concessions are demanded from DALPA . . . . which they genuflect to, as usual. The NW guys are still militant, but there's not enough left to influence events. DAL eventually files BK again, just before which the executive make another zillion dollars for sticking around a few months to get the BK started.

Is there anybody out there that is stupid enough to actually believe Anderson and Steenland?????

Watch out Draginass. Gerbil Lee will get upset since you aren't saying that Delta will rule the world. I'm sure you will soon be on his ignore list. Before long, I'm sure everyone will. All he'll have left is the hole he sticks his head in everyday.

 

[Superpilot92]

Dont know but this is a good sign. :beer:

"Captain Dave Stevens, NWA MEC Chairman, met on Tuesday evening with Richard Anderson, Ed Bastian, Lee Moak and Captain John Prater, ALPA President. During this meeting, Delta management stated that a joint contract results in maximum revenue enhancements for the new merged airline and agreed to move quickly to achieve a joint contract. Delta management has also stated that their objective is to treat all employees in a fair and equitable manner. Therefore, your MEC remains steadfast in their belief that a joint contract can be negotiated in an expedited fashion. The NWA MEC has not wavered in its unanimous resolve for immediate contract and pay parity."