Any rumors for an American Eagle New Hire?

[AirlinePilot777]

When I interviewed they said they were looking at 200 more before the end of the year.

 

[flyinloki]

Perhaps I will run into jerks here and there but at the end of the day I'll still be happy because any day in an ATR in San Juan is better than a day in a 172.

Lets see if your still saying that after 6 months in San Juan, you might actually want to jump back into a 172. I've known a few people that have worked at eagle. One was my brothers friend who got stuck down there and couldn't stand it after 2 months. He finally bid for chicago and got it, moved completly up there and bought a house and then they told him that they needed him back in San Juan. So for months he commuted!. From Chi town to san juan and back which he thought was bull and hated it. The other was my instructor who went there after working for a 135 charter for a couple years. He had always said he would never do the regionals but he decided to give it a shot. Anyway he got hired last winter maybe feburary of 04' finished training in the RJ i believe and commuted from Des Moines starting in like May. Basically he commuted in and sat in the airport all day on reserve went back, came in sat all day in airport on reserve went back, came in sat all day in airport on reserve went back....think you get the point. He was making 13,000 a year about 24,000 less than he was previously making and getting almost no flight time and he quit after 3 months. Got hired at a different charter in Des Moines flying Chiefs and King Airs making almost 3 times the money he was making at Eagle and he will never do the regionals again. Hell he only works maybe 2-3 times a week, gets decent flight time and he makes that much more. Just haven't heard good things over there. But good luck if you go. Maybe like the others said use it to build up your resume and to learn more about the industry.

 

[poorFITgrad'02]

eh?

13k a year for a new hire in 02/04 at eagle? must be a ramper or something. starting pay was 20.97 for 75 hours a month before the increase for a new hire FO, jet or prop.

First year FO pay now is up to 22.89 an hour, which is still horrid for any job where you are jointly responsible for up to 70 people, but its not the worst in the industry. Still, before taxes and medical, etc., your looking at almost 21k a year gross. What's taken out of your paycheck is going to vary.

Airport ready does suck (sitting at the airport all day), but you won't be doing it forever.

A classmate of mine failed his probation ride, but with a good attendance record, good capt. reports, and a good attitude, he was given a re-take and passed. EVERY story I have heard so far about new hire probie rides ending up in termination have had other extenuating circumstances involved (missed assignments, bad reports, and other things that gave the person a reputation). One person I heard failed the ride twice and was released. That person, from what I heard, had a good attitude, reports, etc.

Too bad your friend left, he probably could be holding a jet seat by now, making more money and holding a line somewhere or be close to it. All of these things make life much easier.


You have to do what makes you happy I guess. For your friend, it was going back to the 135 route and it sounds like it was the right choice for him. Gotta wonder if he would have liked it more had he stuck it out a few more months and got the better QOL.

Just wanted to clear up that new hire FO's at eagle make more than 13,000 a year.

If you try it out, and hate it, hey, at least you can see the 121 experience and decide if its for you or not. But give it a fair shot.

 

[AirlinePilot777]

Well I do appreciate the honest input, so thank you all for that...

I do have to say that some of the replies here have been humorous. Some of you think I just made the whole thing up, while others are upset at the fact the fact that I'm excited about my first job as an airline pilot. I'll clear these up first. I did have the interview, however I do admit to jumping the gun. I was approved by the captain's review board, however I have not completed the medical portion yet. I've done the extensive medical before so I'm also not extremely concerned about it. I can only assume that they want me to finish the medical before they give me answers to the questions I have.

I understand that a lot of pilots have reason to be bitter about their current situations, but do you guys honestly expect me not to be excited? Getting into the regionals is a tough task and getting past that barrier is worthy of celebration. It'll take many people years, or they will never even get there.

It sounds to me (and I've heard this from pilots already at eagle), like a good portion of the un-happy people are the commuters. I'm fortunate in that right now I am young and have nothing tying me down so commuting will not be so necessary; and a year based in the islands is actually appealing to me, since my family is originally from there. I'll be happy anywhere because the type of flying experience I will be getting cannot be beaten at this stage in my life.

To all those who felt the need to resort to name calling, I am sorry if I some how offended you. I am simply a pilot, who could be in training fairly soon, that wanted some advice as to how to get through training, IOE, and that first year.

Some of you did have some positive input and I thank you for showing me that this company isn't the worst place I could be. I still look forward to being at eagle. Rest assured that I have heavily considered everyone's advice (good and bad), and have planned and prepared myself accordingly. Thank you all again. I didn't expect or even want to hear sugar coated comments. I know that your honest comments will help me more than anything else.

 

[flyguy75000]

Best of luck to you...........hope you got some $$$$ stashed away. The first "real" flying job, no matter how sh*tty, is always a big deal. Almost like soloing. Everyone here had the same feeling feeling of accomplishment when they got hired somewhere, its just that once they got to the "greener grass" on the other side of the fence, they realized, as will you, it is two shades from being brown.

 

[414Flyer]

Thanks for your replies. Your honest opinions are appreciated. Sounds like things aren't perfect but at this point, I can't see it. Perhaps I will run into jerks here and there but at the end of the day I'll still be happy because any day in an ATR in San Juan is better than a day in a 172.

Happiness aint about the size or how advanced the plane you fly it. At the end of the day, it doesnt matter much anyways. At one time I thought somewhat like you did, that once I got a certain rating or bigger plane, life would be better. I have learned there is a whole lot more to life than flying, and being i a bigger plane certainly isnt going to make you a happier person.

That ATR is probably going to be no fun at all, and will be nothing but work. You will probably think back fondly of the times you were in a 172 and how much more fun you had.

 

[Macondo]

Hey AirlinePilot777, don't pay any attention to the a$$holes on here. This used to be a decent place to get info. Now most of the time it's not even worth sifting through all of the crap posted by these biatches to find something of worth.

First of all, congrats. Second have fun, if your not, your not doing it right. Don't get me wrong, Eagle has problems, you've weighed them, if it's what you want then good luck. People complain all the time about SJU, that's cause there a bunch of pendejos. I had a blast. La Plazita on Friday nights is a good place to start. Then Calle San Sebastian is always a good time. If you give the people there their respect, they will return the favor. It's a great experience, if you let it be. Or you can be a disgruntled gringo just waiting to get off "the rock" and and be miserable, and be an easy target for the sanjuaneros to pummel you and kick your biatch a$$ off. Sounds like you're going to have a good time. BTW, FA's there blow the doors off of the ones here.

 

[filejw]

777
Good luck .I lived down in SJU a long time ago for my first job and had a great time.And one more thing commuting does suck.My move to a base after 26 yrs almost makes it a new job.

 

[Rook]

Hey AirlinePilot777, don't pay any attention to the a$$holes on here. This used to be a decent place to get info. Now most of the time it's not even worth sifting through all of the crap posted by these biatches to find something of worth.

First of all, congrats. Second have fun, if your not, your not doing it right. Don't get me wrong, Eagle has problems, you've weighed them, if it's what you want then good luck. People complain all the time about SJU, that's cause there a bunch of pendejos. I had a blast. La Plazita on Friday nights is a good place to start. Then Calle San Sebastian is always a good time. If you give the people there their respect, they will return the favor. It's a great experience, if you let it be. Or you can be a disgruntled gringo just waiting to get off "the rock" and and be miserable, and be an easy target for the sanjuaneros to pummel you and kick your biatch a$$ off. Sounds like you're going to have a good time. BTW, FA's there blow the doors off of the ones here.

Love the avatar dude.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Good post, it's all about attitude....

Hey AirlinePilot777, don't pay any attention to the a$$holes on here. This used to be a decent place to get info. Now most of the time it's not even worth sifting through all of the crap posted by these biatches to find something of worth.

First of all, congrats. Second have fun, if your not, your not doing it right. Don't get me wrong, Eagle has problems, you've weighed them, if it's what you want then good luck. People complain all the time about SJU, that's cause there a bunch of pendejos. I had a blast. La Plazita on Friday nights is a good place to start. Then Calle San Sebastian is always a good time. If you give the people there their respect, they will return the favor. It's a great experience, if you let it be. Or you can be a disgruntled gringo just waiting to get off "the rock" and and be miserable, and be an easy target for the sanjuaneros to pummel you and kick your biatch a$$ off. Sounds like you're going to have a good time. BTW, FA's there blow the doors off of the ones here.

I flew out of SJU for Executive from 1994-1996 and had a good time. I never heard it referred to as the Rock until I joined this website. It was good experience and I enjoyed my time there.

Don't "hot sheet" in some over priced condo on the beach. Get a car and live 5 minutes from the beach and have more private space. Spend some time on the West side of the island. There is some of the best shore dives (Gas Chambers, Shacks, Borinquen Beach).

If you are single, spend more time on the island and commute the other half of the time.

The guy that commuted from DES (at least a 2-leg commute) and quit after 3 months, what a wuss! I mean, airport reserve sucks, but he created his own stress and didn't give it enough time. Don't be that guy. Make your environment and situation the best you can and enjoy your time.

Jeff

 

[CapnVegetto]

Buddy of mine starts Eagle in the Apr 25th (I think??) ground school. He'll be there till August, then take military leave for 2 years to go to Air Force training. Lucky bastard will miss reserve and everything. When he comes back, he'll probably have the seniority to hold any equipment and domicile he wants. Who knows where Eagle might be in 2 years? I hope things speed up for him. GOOD LUCK DB!!!

 

[chickenpilot]

If he goes on military leave he will still be seat locked when he returns. He will also stillbe on probation I believe. You are correct he will be off reserve though. My advice would be to go someplace where he can hold Captain or almost hold Captain when he returns from military leave 2 years gone from Eagle will only get you close to a decent line on the jet in most bases. Remember right now it takes OVER 5 oops 6 YEARS seniority to hold Captain right now on a turbo prop. I just got displaced back to the right seat of the jet and I had 5 years 11 months. Gonna go see if the grass is greener someplace else.

 

[pacsky72]

Been at Eagle 7 months. Happy, like it, glad to have the job.
You will be too, and the whiners will keep on whining.

Congratulations on getting through the process!

 

[chickenpilot]

Been at Eagle 7 months. Happy, like it, glad to have the job.
You will be too, and the whiners will keep on whining.

Congratulations on getting through the process!

Perhaps the whiners are unhappy after being displaced twice from the left seat. After 6 years all they can hold is the right seat of the jet. 7 months and you are still loving having your first airline job after 70 months your attitude starts to change.

 

[labbats]

I work at Eagle and am happy. The people I know that are new hires that are generally happy with life are still happy, the people that are generally disgruntled in life, well....

Commuting out of DSM for reserve every day? Haha. I live in DSM and pay for a crashpad. Of course, I'm also sane (or at least that's what the voices tell me). Sounds like your friend wasn't taking his job too seriously. We were told of someone doing exactly that in class, out of DSM no less, who got canned when he missed an assignment, then acted like it was no big deal to the chief. Is it the same guy? I don't know, and I don't care, but the guy sounds like he made a poor choice commuting daily anyhow.

I can fully understand the plight of the 6 year FO, but for a new hire I'm content. AA should stop furloughs (hopefully) altogether, attrition will always be a factor, and there's still new jets through July. That adds up to me getting off reserve and moving down that 6-7 year captain wait. Anyone who judges where an airline will be in 5 years by current circumstances deserves what they get.