Any rumors for an American Eagle New Hire?

[414Flyer]

Thanks for your replies. Your honest opinions are appreciated. Sounds like things aren't perfect but at this point, I can't see it. Perhaps I will run into jerks here and there but at the end of the day I'll still be happy because any day in an ATR in San Juan is better than a day in a 172.

Happiness aint about the size or how advanced the plane you fly it. At the end of the day, it doesnt matter much anyways. At one time I thought somewhat like you did, that once I got a certain rating or bigger plane, life would be better. I have learned there is a whole lot more to life than flying, and being i a bigger plane certainly isnt going to make you a happier person.

That ATR is probably going to be no fun at all, and will be nothing but work. You will probably think back fondly of the times you were in a 172 and how much more fun you had.

 

[Macondo]

Hey AirlinePilot777, don't pay any attention to the a$$holes on here. This used to be a decent place to get info. Now most of the time it's not even worth sifting through all of the crap posted by these biatches to find something of worth.

First of all, congrats. Second have fun, if your not, your not doing it right. Don't get me wrong, Eagle has problems, you've weighed them, if it's what you want then good luck. People complain all the time about SJU, that's cause there a bunch of pendejos. I had a blast. La Plazita on Friday nights is a good place to start. Then Calle San Sebastian is always a good time. If you give the people there their respect, they will return the favor. It's a great experience, if you let it be. Or you can be a disgruntled gringo just waiting to get off "the rock" and and be miserable, and be an easy target for the sanjuaneros to pummel you and kick your biatch a$$ off. Sounds like you're going to have a good time. BTW, FA's there blow the doors off of the ones here.

 

[filejw]

777
Good luck .I lived down in SJU a long time ago for my first job and had a great time.And one more thing commuting does suck.My move to a base after 26 yrs almost makes it a new job.

 

[Rook]

Hey AirlinePilot777, don't pay any attention to the a$$holes on here. This used to be a decent place to get info. Now most of the time it's not even worth sifting through all of the crap posted by these biatches to find something of worth.

First of all, congrats. Second have fun, if your not, your not doing it right. Don't get me wrong, Eagle has problems, you've weighed them, if it's what you want then good luck. People complain all the time about SJU, that's cause there a bunch of pendejos. I had a blast. La Plazita on Friday nights is a good place to start. Then Calle San Sebastian is always a good time. If you give the people there their respect, they will return the favor. It's a great experience, if you let it be. Or you can be a disgruntled gringo just waiting to get off "the rock" and and be miserable, and be an easy target for the sanjuaneros to pummel you and kick your biatch a$$ off. Sounds like you're going to have a good time. BTW, FA's there blow the doors off of the ones here.

Love the avatar dude.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Good post, it's all about attitude....

Hey AirlinePilot777, don't pay any attention to the a$$holes on here. This used to be a decent place to get info. Now most of the time it's not even worth sifting through all of the crap posted by these biatches to find something of worth.

First of all, congrats. Second have fun, if your not, your not doing it right. Don't get me wrong, Eagle has problems, you've weighed them, if it's what you want then good luck. People complain all the time about SJU, that's cause there a bunch of pendejos. I had a blast. La Plazita on Friday nights is a good place to start. Then Calle San Sebastian is always a good time. If you give the people there their respect, they will return the favor. It's a great experience, if you let it be. Or you can be a disgruntled gringo just waiting to get off "the rock" and and be miserable, and be an easy target for the sanjuaneros to pummel you and kick your biatch a$$ off. Sounds like you're going to have a good time. BTW, FA's there blow the doors off of the ones here.

I flew out of SJU for Executive from 1994-1996 and had a good time. I never heard it referred to as the Rock until I joined this website. It was good experience and I enjoyed my time there.

Don't "hot sheet" in some over priced condo on the beach. Get a car and live 5 minutes from the beach and have more private space. Spend some time on the West side of the island. There is some of the best shore dives (Gas Chambers, Shacks, Borinquen Beach).

If you are single, spend more time on the island and commute the other half of the time.

The guy that commuted from DES (at least a 2-leg commute) and quit after 3 months, what a wuss! I mean, airport reserve sucks, but he created his own stress and didn't give it enough time. Don't be that guy. Make your environment and situation the best you can and enjoy your time.

Jeff

 

[CapnVegetto]

Buddy of mine starts Eagle in the Apr 25th (I think??) ground school. He'll be there till August, then take military leave for 2 years to go to Air Force training. Lucky bastard will miss reserve and everything. When he comes back, he'll probably have the seniority to hold any equipment and domicile he wants. Who knows where Eagle might be in 2 years? I hope things speed up for him. GOOD LUCK DB!!!

 

[chickenpilot]

If he goes on military leave he will still be seat locked when he returns. He will also stillbe on probation I believe. You are correct he will be off reserve though. My advice would be to go someplace where he can hold Captain or almost hold Captain when he returns from military leave 2 years gone from Eagle will only get you close to a decent line on the jet in most bases. Remember right now it takes OVER 5 oops 6 YEARS seniority to hold Captain right now on a turbo prop. I just got displaced back to the right seat of the jet and I had 5 years 11 months. Gonna go see if the grass is greener someplace else.

 

[pacsky72]

Been at Eagle 7 months. Happy, like it, glad to have the job.
You will be too, and the whiners will keep on whining.

Congratulations on getting through the process!

 

[chickenpilot]

Been at Eagle 7 months. Happy, like it, glad to have the job.
You will be too, and the whiners will keep on whining.

Congratulations on getting through the process!

Perhaps the whiners are unhappy after being displaced twice from the left seat. After 6 years all they can hold is the right seat of the jet. 7 months and you are still loving having your first airline job after 70 months your attitude starts to change.

 

[labbats]

I work at Eagle and am happy. The people I know that are new hires that are generally happy with life are still happy, the people that are generally disgruntled in life, well....

Commuting out of DSM for reserve every day? Haha. I live in DSM and pay for a crashpad. Of course, I'm also sane (or at least that's what the voices tell me). Sounds like your friend wasn't taking his job too seriously. We were told of someone doing exactly that in class, out of DSM no less, who got canned when he missed an assignment, then acted like it was no big deal to the chief. Is it the same guy? I don't know, and I don't care, but the guy sounds like he made a poor choice commuting daily anyhow.

I can fully understand the plight of the 6 year FO, but for a new hire I'm content. AA should stop furloughs (hopefully) altogether, attrition will always be a factor, and there's still new jets through July. That adds up to me getting off reserve and moving down that 6-7 year captain wait. Anyone who judges where an airline will be in 5 years by current circumstances deserves what they get.

 

[wannab0133]

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Anyone see a pattern here? All the newhires and people with very little experience love it and the grizzly veterans speak the truth. Poor newhires with the googles on. It's cute.

 

[pacsky72]

Anyone notice a pattern? The grizzly veterans won't leave the seat and company they hate but they'll sure whine about how terrible it is to others. Go back to school or get a job at starbucks (Great benefits!) or pin your hopes on the lottery if you're that unhappy, but don't let your mistakes screw with the minds of young guys persuing there dreams and achieving them. We are all firmly aware of the state of the industry.

Eagle is a great stepping-stone to something better, and could be better itself soon with the end of AA furloughs.

There is a huge difference between explaining the pros and cons of a job and just trashing others.

bye bye

 

[CapnVegetto]

Except for the LOOOOONG upgrade time, I hear Eagle is a good place to work. Decent pay, work rules, etc. Only problem is you'll be sitting in the right seat for 6 or 7 years, and even then you'll just upgrade to the Saab. I BEGGED my buddy to try ExpressJet or Skywest, but he wouldn't listen to me, he was just so happy to get a job SOMEWHERE after all the trying, so now it's Eagle or bust. All I can do now is support him and wish him the best, which is what I'm going to do. He's lucky, though, who knows where Eagle will be in 2 years? Might have some kind of drastic turnaround, have a bunch of people leave for CAL, American recalls, you never know. In 2 years, they might be right in the middle of a hiring binge and he'll come back to a captain seat somewhere. I guess he might be seatlocked, and you know more about it than me, but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. They're going to have to completely retrain him anyway, so I figured they'd just give him whatever equipment and domicile his seat could hold. Ah well, we'll just have to see in 2 years.

 

[chuckheb]

Pilot1625 Nailed it. Im Eagle as well and he's right on in his description of the company. However, Here's some things to look forward to in SJU(6 years here). Good beach and surfing/kitesurfing, Great looking girls, Waking up on beautiful Caribbean islands (although overnights are very short nowadays), it never snows, Good diving, cool bunch of friends bonded by the adversity of a crappy contract. Good luck.....

 

[belchfire]

well, good luck. Hope that you like looking
out the right hand windscreen and that you
are young enough to get upgraded before
you turn 60!

And you might try to break the AMR employee
tradition of ignoring the employees of other
airlines. Return the nod even if they are not
wearing the AA cloth.

 

[ILSJUNKIE]

Except for the LOOOOONG upgrade time, I hear Eagle is a good place to work. Decent pay, work rules, etc. Only problem is you'll be sitting in the right seat for 6 or 7 years, and even then you'll just upgrade to the Saab. I BEGGED my buddy to try ExpressJet or Skywest, but he wouldn't listen to me, he was just so happy to get a job SOMEWHERE after all the trying, so now it's Eagle or bust. All I can do now is support him and wish him the best, which is what I'm going to do. He's lucky, though, who knows where Eagle will be in 2 years? Might have some kind of drastic turnaround, have a bunch of people leave for CAL, American recalls, you never know. In 2 years, they might be right in the middle of a hiring binge and he'll come back to a captain seat somewhere. I guess he might be seatlocked, and you know more about it than me, but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. They're going to have to completely retrain him anyway, so I figured they'd just give him whatever equipment and domicile his seat could hold. Ah well, we'll just have to see in 2 years.

Certainly better that Pinnacle. Once 138 arrives, no more upgrading or hiring...period. Rumor has it that unless safety and performance improves, Pinnacle may be actually losing Airlink flying and jets to another airlink carrier. Makes sense to me since Pinnacle doesn't even own one aircraft. Why would NWA continue to put up with them.

 

[fxbat]

My 2 cents: Hired by EGL June 2001

Pic from the Jump Seat.









SXM was a 19hr overnight

The crew hotel is on the left. And the tops optional bar is on the right. Over the hill is Camelot. (Too many kids on the reg. board to go into details) You can’t see the casino that is across from the hotel or the best nude bar in the c-rib 2 blocks down the street. My favs are the Bombay 1.75ltr for $8.00 us and JW-blue for 75.00 us. The ship in the background is the Black Sheep @ 120' (met the crew at the beach bar and got to hang out on the ship)

SJU (and life for that matter) is what you make it.

1) If you got into aviation for the money and security. You made a huge mistake.

2) No box on an application can ever replace what you love doing for a living.

3) The future is uncertain. Enjoy what you have now.

4) 400 flow backs and 400 flowup Capt.’s with AA numbers (strange when the bitching started isn’t it) hint... it wasn’t when the fo’s stopped upgrading.

Airlinepiot777 welcome. Study your a$$ off, work hard, learn from the Capt's that have been around for a while, avoid the negative people and enjoy. Let the details worry about themselves.

PS. The 1k Pic turbine might (and I mean might) put you in the bottom 1% of the 15k+ applications continental has received.

 

[fxbat]

Dam... those pic's PM me if you want some