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I know they ship convicts to and fro, but are they an airline, or are they law enforcement?
 
Out at Williams Gateway airport in Phoenix/Mesa Arizona, two MD-80s shuttle government workers, and very frequently shuttle immigrants back and forth (from where to where, im not sure). About every other day, two to three busses pull up and a bunch of people with INS blue wind-breaker jackets guard the perimeter with riot guns.
These flights are Justice 311 and 315
 
satpak77 said:
air transportation branch of US Marshals Service
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Correct.

They post for jobs every 3 or 4 months, go to www.doj.gov and go to their jobs board and do a search. Very nice lady runs the recruitment in D.C., she'll call you back usually within an hour or two of you leaving her a voicemail.

Looked into it a while back, seemed cool to be a U.S. Marshall as well as a pilot making decent money with a government pension at the end of the tunnel but it only caps out around $95k if I remember correctly...
 
Lear70 said:
Correct.

They post for jobs every 3 or 4 months, go to www.doj.gov and go to their jobs board and do a search. Very nice lady runs the recruitment in D.C., she'll call you back usually within an hour or two of you leaving her a voicemail.

Looked into it a while back, seemed cool to be a U.S. Marshall as well as a pilot making decent money with a government pension at the end of the tunnel but it only caps out around $95k if I remember correctly...
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Do you have to move? Do they keep you on the hook all the time, or let you have a decent lifestyle?
Do you have to be a commissioned law enforcement officer?
 
Pilotbob3 said:
who is "Brickyard"?
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The current Republic Airlines (IATA: RW, ICAO: RPA, and Callsign: Brickyard) is a regional airline subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings that operates service as US Airways Express for US Airways from Philadelphia and Washington National using Embraer 170 aircraft.
US Airways' pilots previously had a "scope clause" prohibiting the airline from operating large regional jets such as the 170. The airline negotiated around this clause by offering flight deck jobs to laid-off US Airways pilots, in a program known as "Jets for Jobs." This agreement created a subsidiary, MidAtlantic Airways. However, as part of the airline's bankruptcy restructuring, the 25 E170s delivered to MidAtlantic are being transferred to Republic, which will operate them along with three new-delivery aircraft on order. Republic will operate them under a conventional Express carrier contract. On March 6, 2006 Republic Airlines announced it plans to establish an overnight maintenance facility and flight crew base at Pittsburgh International Airport, creating as many as 140 jobs by year's end. Already Republic has taken over flights from Pittsburgh previously operated by Air Wisconsin.
 
Midnight Flyer said:
Do you have to move?
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Yes, the job will be posted in whatever city they need people in, usually where there's a major criminal facility or two. Last one was in Louisiana, next one is rumored to be in Virginia.

Do they keep you on the hook all the time, or let you have a decent lifestyle?
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You don't do pop-up trips. Ever. You don't live by a pager. Ever. All their flying is planned, usually 4 or 5 days a week, back in your house most evenings from what I was told.

Do you have to be a commissioned law enforcement officer?
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No, but it helps. I was told they will train you as a U.S. Marshall before beginning pilot training on the aircraft.
 
Lear70 said:
Yes, the job will be posted in whatever city they need people in, usually where there's a major criminal facility or two. Last one was in Louisiana, next one is rumored to be in Virginia.


You don't do pop-up trips. Ever. You don't live by a pager. Ever. All their flying is planned, usually 4 or 5 days a week, back in your house most evenings from what I was told.


No, but it helps. I was told they will train you as a U.S. Marshall before beginning pilot training on the aircraft.
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Hmm, they used to have 727's I believe. Lately I've been seeing them in 737's. Like you said earlier, they carry the illegals back to Mexico. I've seen all the big "prison" busses surrounding the plane on the ramp, with marshals standing guard around the plane. Looks pretty intereting.

Thanks for the input lear.
 
I've seen Planet Airways 727s in LEX doing prisoner transfer each of the last 4 summers. When it wasn't obviously a Planet aircraft, it was a 727 with a single strip down the side (I seem to recall red or blue or green). Never heard what callsign they were using, so I only assume it was Justice...
 
they fly primarily to Guatemala City, Tegucigalpa Honduras, and San Salvador. I have also seen then in Bogota, Colombia.

They are flying "OTM's" or Other Than Mexicans.

Major "bases" are Alexandria, LA and Mesa, AZ. I am sure there are others.

This function was done by the INS, back in the 80s', with DC-9s, but was merged into the Marshals Air Wing I think in the early 90's, where it is today.
 
Lear,

the site is very difficult to navigate. Even if you put in a search for "pilot" under jobs, it comes up with nothing. Am I doing something wrong?
 
BoilerUP said:
I've seen Planet Airways 727s in LEX doing prisoner transfer each of the last 4 summers. When it wasn't obviously a Planet aircraft, it was a 727 with a single strip down the side (I seem to recall red or blue or green). Never heard what callsign they were using, so I only assume it was Justice...
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I dont think Planet was actually doing the trips. I do know for a fact that they used to lease a couple of Planets birds.
 
ALL the aircraft doing these flights are leased from other companies and flown by U.S. Marshalls.

The leased 3 or 4 DC-9's from Express One back in the day (they were the only 9's left on the certificate, the rest of us were flying 727's).

I think you're right about the application window. I'll see if I can dig up my last known number for the hiring folks in D.C. but I don't have high hopes, I kind of ditched all my job search stuff when I got hired in March...
 
Lear70 said:
ALL the aircraft doing these flights are leased from other companies and flown by U.S. Marshalls.
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Not completely true. Every so often the Marshalls use sub-service from other carriers. I have personally flown at least 20 trips for them in the 727
 
Thedude said:
Not completely true. Every so often the Marshalls use sub-service from other carriers. I have personally flown at least 20 trips for them in the 727
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Hmmm... interesting. When I was flying at EOI they wouldn't let any of us do that flying, said all their pilots had to be US Marshall Service employees.

Maybe you were flying one of the INS babysitting flights and not the actual Con Air type of work? I don't know, haven't been directly involved in it, just responded to a job ad or two for them (and no, not the one in the link...) :)
 
I used to see them in OKC all the time doing flights for the Fed prison there. They had a hangar on the NE side of the airport.
 
Does anybody on this board actually fly for them? if so, let us hear from you.
 
Lear70 said:
Hmmm... interesting. When I was flying at EOI they wouldn't let any of us do that flying, said all their pilots had to be US Marshall Service employees.

Maybe you were flying one of the INS babysitting flights and not the actual Con Air type of work? I don't know, haven't been directly involved in it, just responded to a job ad or two for them (and no, not the one in the link...) :)
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Nope, we flew both. I began to hate the Justice flight because we usually did at least 8 legs a day and I would finally remember to respond to the Justice callsign about halfway through the day. We usually had one of their guys on board to pay for fuel and tell us where to park but other than that we did alot of legs for 'em.
 
DOJ has a 737 that comes to Willow Run (YIP) every Weds to up pick inmates. I think it ususally goes to Terra Haute after.
 
I have flown many months worth of trips for them. They would hire my company to fly for them when their own aircraft broke. Which was often. It is some of the best flying I have ever done. Jeans and tee shirt, ball cap ,no bitchy/dumb flight attendants, part 91 flying. Yes some of the days were long and had many legs, 5 or 6 some days but the Marshals crews are way cool and the flying never dull. I went to all the Central America spots as well as all the islands in the Caribbean including Havana Cuba 2 or 3 times. Not too many people can say that. Most of the stuff in this thread about hiring seems to be correct from what I remember but if you get hired as a pilot you are only a JPATS pilot not a Marshal nor trained as one. They also have a fleet of Leers and other bizjets for the high profile prisoners but they are only in the OAK city base. The Williams Gateway and Alexandra base are only 737's or MD-80's if they have not made the switch to all 737 yet.
 
Lear70 said:
only caps out around $95k if I remember correctly...
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Unlike flying for the majors though that $95k is never going to go down (in fact you will probably get a raise every year), you are never going to face furlough, and you get some sweet benefits. Plus if they run their per diem program anything like the one my buddy gets designing roads for DOT you can tack another $20-30k onto that number pretty easily.
 
any job paying 100K a year that offers minimal risk of layoff, a pension/retirement, and minimal/zero chance of pay cuts due to "cost cutting measures by the CFO" is a good job in the 2006-era of the aviation industry

so you don't wear gold stripes on your epalets and black low-quarters?

if you want that join Comair, they "get" to do that
 

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