Another speed bump in the AT/SWA combination

[General Lee]

If that happens, no doubt you'll be the first to joyfully announce the news.

I have never wished a furlough or a BK on anyone. I assume, like many on here, that SWA will keep older 733s and 735s longer when they start handing the 717s over to DL. If they don't, that would be a shame, and if DL starts hiring a lot onto the 717, I hope many AT guys are picked up.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

SWA will be hiring off the street for FAs starting at the beginning of the year. Makes perfect sense. Much cheaper to hire at first year pay, than to transition FAs at higher steps on the payscale.

It's not off the street, it's actually internals, Maybe open to Air Tran Ground Ops. or Customer Service? I've seen the memo but not sure if it's open to both sides of the partition...They've closed a bunch of stations, maybe it is for those employees? Rumor has it that a bunch of FA's are staying on the AT side until the last day and quitting, No word if the ATL base had (has) anything to do with it or not BUT it's in the FA's transitional agreement that an ATL base opens by a certain date in 2015 (I believe that the year is correct, I know that the base thing is in there, DO not have document in front of me!)

Later,
KBB

 

[PCL_128]

That's what I was thinking when I heard the news, but then I thought "Certainly SWA wouldn't want to alienate their own future F/A's by doing that".

Seriously? You would still question that after all we've seen them do? Nothing is beneath these people.

I miss Kolski.

 

[ATLplt]

I miss Kolski.

At least you knew where you stood with him.

 

[texman]

Flat combine fleet 2013. 150 new hires next year for retirements/New FAA rules coming. Let's not forget 50+ AT orders of 737's, and classic's life extended. This will off set the 80+ 717's going

 

[gobyebye]

No, quite the contrary, I just mentioned I was hearing strange rumors, unsupported by the facts on the ground.

Maybe if we just don't post stupid rumors with no facts to support them, then we wouldn't stir up more anger among an already angry workgroup.

 

[Citrusflyer]

Maybe if we just don't post stupid rumors with no facts to support them, then we wouldn't stir up more anger among an already angry workgroup.

flightinfo.com - they only fact based pilot web board on the net. There'd be no fun in that.

 

[FlyinGuy]

Maybe if we just don't post stupid rumors with no facts to support them, then we wouldn't stir up more anger among an already angry workgroup.

If you are so angry, why do you come to FI?

 

[slaquer5]

Thats the one I heard last week as well. The other was we are going to be 1000 overmanned by 2013, so furloughs for Christmas 2013.

YMMV.

Who did you hear that from GL or Dan ?


I doubt you heard that from anyone of sound mind.

 

[scoreboardII]

Maybe if we just don't post stupid rumors with no facts to support them, then we wouldn't stir up more anger among an already angry workgroup.

Dude, I stated this one one baseless, showing how stupid it was, in relation to other stupid rumors, I guess you missed that part.

 

[Uppercrust]

I miss Kolski.

I had a crush on him at one point.

 

[humveedriver]

It's not off the street, it's actually internals, Maybe open to Air Tran Ground Ops. or Customer Service? I've seen the memo but not sure if it's open to both sides of the partition...They've closed a bunch of stations, maybe it is for those employees? Rumor has it that a bunch of FA's are staying on the AT side until the last day and quitting, No word if the ATL base had (has) anything to do with it or not BUT it's in the FA's transitional agreement that an ATL base opens by a certain date in 2015 (I believe that the year is correct, I know that the base thing is in there, DO not have document in front of me!)

Later,
KBB

Correct. I finally saw it. Thought it was well written actually. I think the FA's just had a bad initial reaction. No different than the pilots over here, who just want to rip the band aid off once and for all. As for FA's staying or going, I think you will see almost all attempt to stay. Longevity and benefits don't grow on trees. As I learned from this experience, there is a certain amount of smack talk, that doesn't translate into reality.

 

[dicko]

I had a crush on him at one point.

Its not too late ..... He's blooming and more open minded now that he's entered his golden years. Reach out to him. Share your yearning.

 

[XR650R]

As someone mentioned previously, the real reason behind the slow roll is AT is too profitable with it's fees. Obviously GK and Co. now have a very clear picture of the revenue possibilities with ancillary fees added in. As soon as our IT is up to speed, I expect SWA to roll out fees similar to what AT has been doing all the while. Then the integration will kick into high gear.

 

[Citrusflyer]

As someone mentioned previously, the real reason behind the slow roll is AT is too profitable with it's fees. Obviously GK and Co. now have a very clear picture of the revenue possibilities with ancillary fees added in. As soon as our IT is up to speed, I expect SWA to roll out fees similar to what AT has been doing all the while. Then the integration will kick into high gear.

Translation: As soon as the IT Dept can figure out HOW to charge for bags they will.

 

[DonVerita]

As soon as our IT is up to speed...

In which decade do you see that happening? :beer:

 

[XR650R]

In which decade do you see that happening? :beer:

In one of the next for sure.

 

[Skyboy722]

Translation: As soon as the IT Dept can figure out HOW to charge for bags they will.

I love this rumor. SW charges for pets, early boarding, 3rd or more bags, etc. Don't think they can figure out how to charge for the first two bags? GMAFB! IT is bad, but not that bad. They're waiting for their colossal screw up that was the "bags fly free" campaign to wear off, and hopefully, be forgotten.

Seen any "Bags fly free" ads lately? I sure haven't.

 

[PCL_128]

At least you knew where you stood with him.

Yep. I'd rather someone admit to being an adversary rather than pretending to be my buddy and smiling while he sticks a knife in my back, all the while talking about the "Golden Rule."

 

[dicko]

I love this rumor. SW charges for pets, early boarding, 3rd or more bags, etc. Don't think they can figure out how to charge for the first two bags? GMAFB! IT is bad, but not that bad. They're waiting for their colossal screw up that was the "bags fly free" campaign to wear off, and hopefully, be forgotten.

Seen any "Bags fly free" ads lately? I sure haven't.

Ostrichboy,

They cant figure out a simple, consistent, efficient and safe Performence system for a fleet of 737s. 800s out of Midway in the summer and Key West on a wet runway. Nuff said. No single engine taxi on the largest fleet of high frequency aircraft in the world, during periods of the highest fuel prices. Trying to re invent reservation systems. International and ETOPS considered a challenge equal to spaceflight in the 1940s ..... And you don't believe they couldn't charge for extra bags ?

Wear goggles. Sand irritates the eye.