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Yeah, when someone runs one off the end because he's too tired to fly, try the "It doesn't matter how we got here" line. Then ask the company to pitch in some extra effort to help get you off the hook, and see what happens.

Anyone hear if the company is standing behind the CA who kicked the guy off in DTW?
 
centralpilot said:
You give our suits WAY too much credit.
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Maybe. But their job as management is to obsess over the faintest murmur that would hint at mishap. I don't disagree with you, but I believe there is more to this story that will never involve us as a consideration. That's why we're scratching our heads in the dark.
 
Hey on the bright side, at least he acknowledged that it's been miserable to come to work lately.

Is that really a bright side? I don't know. But it's pretty funny that he actually admitted it.
 
New email out now. Wait until you guys get a load of this. He still does not say we're under-staffed.
 
Ted said:
New email out now. Wait until you guys get a load of this. He still does not say we're under-staffed.
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I'm surprised there are so many willing to pick up open time, give up vacations and add reserve to their schedule. I guess if you offer 200% pay, all of the sudden the bitching stops, just like the year before. Amazing.
 
Ted said:
New email out now. Wait until you guys get a load of this. He still does not say we're under-staffed.
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We heard this same line of BS at XJT before ASA bought us.... We have the highest amount of sick calls in the industry, etc etc etc.... was just a line of crap. Dont fall for it guys.
 
GeekMaster said:
The staffing and our operation has reached a critical mass this week (ie maintenance issues, increased flying added at the last minute, commuter clause users, sick calls, personal issues, extended training for some pilots-new hires and upgrades, ground damage, weather, too much open time left from the original bid run, PBS issues, people not following the FOM policies, etc.).

Translation: Our actions have finally caught up with us and we're in a world of hurt this week

We have recently caught the attention of both of our mainline partners at the highest level. It is important that we all work to pull the operation up this week and weekend.

Translation: DAL and UAL are really pi$$ed about it !!

I would not be asking for your highest attention to this issue if it was not critical. I know at times it may seem unbearable recently to come to work but it is important you push through this and help to improve our operation now.

Translation: If you sorry SOB's would quit faking sick calls and quit being pansies with your fatigue calls I wouldn't have to beg right now.

It doesn’t matter how we got here (I screwed up) but we need to show ASA runs a quality on time, reliable airline to our partners without delay. (I need you guys to cover my back) You do a great job and your attention to our operation is appreciated before, now and in the future.(uh huh ugh Thank you, yes ma'am, and stuff)
Scott
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Just remove some terms and insert other terms, and you have EXACTLY what's been going on at XJT since last spring/early summer.

What's funny is we had a management pilot in the crew room last summer fielding questions about our staffing issues. His response was along the lines of "EVERYBODY has a part to play here as far as our staffing issues are concerned". Pretty much alluding to the notion that the pilots are of equal blame for the reasons mentioned. Sick calls, fatigue, etc. I just sat there, but I wish I would have said "THREE times I played the part of a pilot on days I should have played the part of a guy on a day off drinking on his patio in the summer time. If the trend keeps up of me playing the part of a pilot on these types of days, I can foresee myself playing the part of a guy drinking on his patio when he was scheduled to be playing the part of a pilot".

nerjdriver said:
We heard this same line of BS at XJT before ASA bought us.... We have the highest amount of sick calls in the industry, etc etc etc.... was just a line of crap. Dont fall for it guys.
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My former employer said the same thing. When I mentioned that to a COMAIR guy once in CVG he said "that's funny, our management says we have the highest sick call rate".
 
dojetdriver said:
My former employer said the same thing. When I mentioned that to a COMAIR guy once in CVG he said "that's funny, our management says we have the highest sick call rate".
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Oh yea all the hits man. That one was on the top ten list for a good 8-12 months about a year year and a half ago.

Its so funny looking back. Fool me once....
 
Crew planning and scheduling have more control over crew costs than we, but there's mention of them doing their job better.

Remember, we're in contract negotiations now. This is gonna be business as usual until a contract is signed.
 
Sounds like Mr. Hall is about to lose his job due to incompetence.
Next thing will be Mr Jerry call down from the mountain telling him to turn in his ID

Bravo Mr Management Bravo
 
I don't believe ANYONE "volunteered" for reserve!! Are you kidding me?

I think it is an attempt to say "see...... some guys care....why don't ALL of you? Lets ALL pitch in and bring it in for the big WIN!!!"

I have worked for a company that treated its employees so poorly, that the employees WANTED the place to burn down just for the misguided, temporary satisfaction of seeing the consequences of mgmts actions. That is a very dangerous place for mgmt to put themselves in, and I am pretty much at that point now.

I really don't care if this place implodes anymore. I would enjoy bagging groceries more than coming to work at this craphole.

PS. I noticed Brads update is out with comments turned off. Yeah Brad, just keep that head of yours buried in the sand.
 
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COOPERVANE said:
I don't believe ANYONE "volunteered" for reserve!! Are you kidding me?

I think it is an attempt to say "see...... some guys care....why don't ALL of you? Lets ALL pitch in and bring it in for the big WIN!!!"

I have worked for a company that treated its employees so poorly, that the employees WANTED the place to burn down just for the misguided, temporary satisfaction of seeing the consequences of mgmts actions. That is a very dangerous place for mgmt to put themselves in, and I am pretty much at that point now.

I really don't care if this place implodes anymore. I would enjoy bagging groceries more than coming to work at this craphole.

PS. I noticed Brads update is out with comments turned off. Yeah Brad, just keep that head of yours buried in the sand.
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I see plenty of comments
 
Yous guys need to become industry leading, here at Skywest we have Platinum Days and Scheduled Sick Days, all you have to do is to include them into your employment lexicon.

Platinum Day-sitting at home and the thought of not watching tomorrows re run of I dream of Jeannie is revolting.

Scheduled Sick Day- when the schedule is posted and you look at the 6 day work block and decide that NASCAR is more important than going to work.
Are you guys loving BH yet, told ya!
PBR
 
COOPERVANE said:
Yes you did! You told us right when he came here. You were 100% correct.
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He is dumber than a Labrador retriever, warier than a flock of turkeys and meaner than a basement full of Charlie Mansons. And that is what makes him so dangerous. He comes from SLC and SGU where to be smarter than average means that you have never shot yourself or a family member by accident.
I am glad that turd is in your punchbowl!
PBR
 
OCP said:
It's not like we had a choice. He just showed up one day.
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Wrong,
You embraced him like a $2.00 whore that swallows, you said those who had gone there before, that they were wrong. Enjoy him he is yours! Half smart and mean is a dangerous combo!
PBR
 
PBRstreetgang said:
Wrong,
You embraced him like a $2.00 whore that swallows, you said those who had gone there before, that they were wrong. Enjoy him he is yours! Half smart and mean is a dangerous combo!
PBR
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Huh? I REALLY don't remember being able to pick the Skywest person that was to come and deliver us our doom.
 
Sounds like things are running extra lean just like your holding company likes it to run.

Some of us were surprised when you embraced Ricco.
 
Abernathy said:
Looks like our MEC responded. Let me guess how it went prior to the e-mail being sent.

MEC Officer: "Hey Scott...yeah me again, dude that BBQ at your place was fan-friggen-tastic. Yeah bro, anyways, look man, the pilots are pissed about that e-mail you sent so we gotta feed them something..you know, so they don't think we're going over to your place and having BBQs and stuff. But I wanted to give you a heads up first.

SH: Nah man we're cool. Glad you liked the BBQ. Hey where should we have our next Contract meeting? I was thinking Houston's or maybe we could head down to Vegas again.

MEC Officer: Vegas sounds good. We were thinking Destin. I was gonna bring my Jimmy Buffet CDs.

SH: Sweet. I'm in. Ok I gotta go. Say hi to the wife.

MEC Officer: Keep it real.
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I think you are WAY closer to the truth than any of us would care to admit.....
 
Data said:
I'm guessing that's related to the FAA and some uninspected lightning strikes from 2008, it's in the local news this morning.
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ATLANTA – The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is proposing a $425,000 civil penalty against Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA), of Atlanta, for allegedly operating two Bombardier CRJ regional jet airliners when they were not in compliance with FAA regulations.
The FAA alleges that ASA, a subsidiary of SkyWest, Inc. and flying as Delta Connection, failed to complete required inspections of the two aircraft after they were struck by lightning. One strike took place on July 21, 2008 and the other on July 23, 2008.
The FAA alleges that ASA operated the two aircraft on a total of 13 revenue passenger flights between July 22 and 24 when they were not in compliance with regulations. FAA regulations require the carrier to conduct and document the detailed check for lightning strike damage mandated in the airline’s aircraft maintenance manual. An FAA air safety inspector discovered both alleged violations.
“All operators must comply with maintenance regulations and requirements in a timely fashion,” said FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt.
Atlantic Southeast has 30 days from the receipt of the FAA’s enforcement letter to respond to the agency.
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