Another condescending SH email.

[HoserASA]

I don't think it SH as much as CT is pulling the strings. SH is just the sh*t catcher on this. Whats done now cannot be fixed overnight, the cost savings really has come at to great a cost.

Bingo!

 

[Data]

I think Scott sent this email to the wrong group, perhaps he pressed 'All Pilots' when he meant to select 'All Management'.

 

[BoilerUP]

I seem to recall something a Pinnacle pilot wrote a few years ago:

The high cost of low overhead

 

[jetstream]

This is some very creative Writing. I like how he begins by laying much of the blame on the pilots and ends with telling us that we do a "great job".

I especially love the part where he says, "it doesn't matter how we got here". Oh, but I think it do matter.......

If there is a valid reason we have to run the airline understaffed right now, let us in on it. People are much more willing to suck it up and do what has to be done if they understand why.

If there is not a valid reason for running so short staffed then heads should roll.

 

[Poppa Hodax]

Rule 1: Keep them too busy to think.

Rule 2: Keep them tired.

Rule 3: Keep them emotionally involved.

Rule 4: Reward intermittently.

Interesting....sounds like SERE School.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

What exactly is he referring to when he says people aren't following the FOM??????

 

[Plainsman]

What exactly is he referring to when he says people aren't following the FOM??????

Sorry guys I left my wings in my bag the other day and forgot to put them on. The Walrus saw me when I was getting on the elevator, didn't like it very much. I never imagined that one little mistake on my part would have gotten this out of hand. So blame the fom part on me.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

This email comes from the man that allows pilots leave to do tv shows. Then blames us for taking personal leave. Uh why not just say NO!, oh wait then it would look like it was his fault and we are understaffed. SH is a complete waste of space!

 

[WWEfan]

My translation...

You pilots got us into this mess, but I will forgive you if you pull it together this weekend.

/puke

 

[Ted]

What exactly is he referring to when he says people aren't following the FOM??????

I'm thinking he is referring to guys not telling on themselves when their delay takes them below 9 hrs rest. Then their subsequent duty day is limited and they end up removing roundtrips. I can't blame guys for not calling when the wait times are 20+ minutes to get someone to answer the phone in scheduling. When they do answer, it is just a drone who has to go and wait in line for the one supervisor on duty who can actually do something. Who wants to do that on a reduced-rest overnight? If you fight them about being on duty until they actually talk to you on the phone, they will give you that bunk about being able to contact you for 1 hour on either end of a rest period. If they had proper staffing, there would be folks on reserve to cover this crap.

Fly safe guys!

 

[Abernathy]

I thought that new logo was supposed to fix all this.

 

[777forever]

I'm thinking he is referring to guys not telling on themselves when their delay takes them below 9 hrs rest. Then their subsequent duty day is limited and they end up removing roundtrips. I can't blame guys for not calling when the wait times are 20+ minutes to get someone to answer the phone in scheduling. When they do answer, it is just a drone who has to go and wait in line for the one supervisor on duty who can actually do something. Who wants to do that on a reduced-rest overnight? If you fight them about being on duty until they actually talk to you on the phone, they will give you that bunk about being able to contact you for 1 hour on either end of a rest period. If they had proper staffing, there would be folks on reserve to cover this crap.

Fly safe guys!

Since they offered 200% I called last night to pick up some open time for today. Was on hold for 42 minutes before I gave up. Only reason I waited that long is because I had it on speaker phone and was playing XBOX.

 

[Abernathy]

Since they offered 200% I called last night to pick up some open time for today. Was on hold for 42 minutes before I gave up. Only reason I waited that long is because I had it on speaker phone and was playing XBOX.

Why not just pick it up on skedplus

 

[JoeMerchant]

Why not just pick it up on skedplus

Can't pick up current open time on sched plus.

 

[flyboyike]

Comair had the same BS before its dive off the cliff.....

Had? The BS is still going on.

 

[Abernathy]

Mismanagement at its finest. We obviously want the company to survive but there is nothing we can do at our level. Our management team is among the most inept, embarrassing, and reckless among airline management and will likely be remembered historically for this 3 year-long screw up.

ASA is on shaky ground and we will absolutely go the way of Comair unless we can get better management. We have money to piss away millions to change our brand identity, but we can't hire a few more pilots and fix a few more airplanes.

Here's what's going to happen. ASA will make it through the summer, we will get a "Thanks for all you do" letter from BH and maybe a sloppily written e-mail from CT, we'll push through the winter still short staffed and getting boned from behind, and nothing will change.

Fly safe.

 

[Ted]

Mismanagement at its finest. We obviously want the company to survive but there is nothing we can do at our level. Our management team is among the most inept, embarrassing, and reckless among airline management and will likely be remembered historically for this 3 year-long screw up.

ASA is on shaky ground and we will absolutely go the way of Comair unless we can get better management. We have money to piss away millions to change our brand identity, but we can't hire a few more pilots and fix a few more airplanes.

Here's what's going to happen. ASA will make it through the summer, we will get a "Thanks for all you do" letter from BH and maybe a sloppily written e-mail from CT, we'll push through the winter still short staffed and getting boned from behind, and nothing will change.

Fly safe.

You are quite a bit more optimistic than me. I think ASA will flail through the summer while Delta and United are making other plans. Come fall one (or both) will start the process to revoke our contracts. All the while our management will be working on SOC stuff for an airline that does not exist anymore. Jerry needs to get over here and fix this NOW, or we're done.

 

[Abernathy]

I remember hearing many times that we cut staffing because one of Brad's biggest pet peeves is "reserves who don't fly."

He better quit whining and get over that real quick because it's that kind of mentality that has driven us to where we are.

 

[sinkrate]

The problem is Delta.

When I look in the back of my 50 seat AC and see three crews from three different DCI carriers all on a scheduled DH as part of the their trip - something is way wrong. In the red tail system DH's were very few in number - now just about every pairing has at least one scheduled DH in it.

When I report for the first flight in Regional City USA and see one AC each from five different DCI carriers at the gate - soemthing is very F'ed up. There is only one COEX and for the most part one Eagle.

Delta has hopelessly screwed up the integration of the red tail RJ's into the Delta system. They refuse to let any one carrier dominate even the smallest market so we are all spread ridiculously all over the country. Delta's marketing guru's have changed their marketing plan from one that you can staff with 5 crews per AC to one that needs 6 or 7 crews per AC. We used to need only two crews per day per AC. Now I see some schedules that require four crews a day to operate an AC. Two of those crews will be in the back of some one elses AC most of the day too. That is Delta's doing -and Delta's problem. They have the most expensive regional feed in the industry because of their marketing scheme. Yes I know it is because of their strike phobia - but they pay a tremendous price for it.

Our problem is Delta marketing has their heads too far up a dark place to realize they are the problem. PCL's and Mesaba's trips absolutely suck compared to the old red tail trips. The regional management group that realizes they need to staff 6 crews per AC to maintain good performance will be rewarded by Delta with a flogging for increasing expenses.

If you are in senior management at a DCI carrier you are in a no win position. It doesn't matter what they do - they are screwed. And when people are in that position they tend to do what ever they jolly well please - and then blame someone else.

 

[bri5150]

The problem is Delta.

When I look in the back of my 50 seat AC and see three crews from three different DCI carriers all on a scheduled DH as part of the their trip - something is way wrong. In the red tail system DH's were very few in number - now just about every pairing has at least one scheduled DH in it.

When I report for the first flight in Regional City USA and see one AC each from five different DCI carriers at the gate - soemthing is very F'ed up. There is only one COEX and for the most part one Eagle.

Delta has hopelessly screwed up the integration of the red tail RJ's into the Delta system. They refuse to let any one carrier dominate even the smallest market so we are all spread ridiculously all over the country. Delta's marketing guru's have changed their marketing plan from one that you can staff with 5 crews per AC to one that needs 6 or 7 crews per AC. We used to need only two crews per day per AC. Now I see some schedules that require four crews a day to operate an AC. Two of those crews will be in the back of some one elses AC most of the day too. That is Delta's doing -and Delta's problem. They have the most expensive regional feed in the industry because of their marketing scheme. Yes I know it is because of their strike phobia - but they pay a tremendous price for it.

Our problem is Delta marketing has their heads too far up a dark place to realize they are the problem. PCL's and Mesaba's trips absolutely suck compared to the old red tail trips. The regional management group that realizes they need to staff 6 crews per AC to maintain good performance will be rewarded by Delta with a flogging for increasing expenses.

If you are in senior management at a DCI carrier you are in a no win position. It doesn't matter what they do - they are screwed. And when people are in that position they tend to do what ever they jolly well please - and then blame someone else.

I agree that it is Delta's doing, but it is far from Delta's problem. That is the beauty of outsourcing. Just give the other company the schedule you want flown and let them figure out the rest. At Mesaba we flew a completely empty airplane from MEM to MSL in order to bridge it over for the MSL ATL turns. If this industry was working properly, someone could have sold the seats, but instead, we get the schedule from Delta, and that was the most cost effective way of getting the flying covered from our perspective.