An ASA Crew Bashing Comair

[tiffanytaylor]

I heard an ASA crew bashing Comair the other day in CVG. Basically hoping for Comair's "demise". I thought ASA and Comair were "allies". Comair pilots supported ASA for a new contract for a long time.

What does ASA have to gain by Comair's extinction? This was probably an isolated incident (I hope).

Thanks,

T

 

[flyboyike]

I heard an ASA crew bashing Comair the other day in CVG. Basically hoping for Comair's "demise". I thought ASA and Comair were "allies". Comair pilots supported ASA for a new contract for a long time.

What does ASA have to gain by Comair's extinction? This was probably an isolated incident (I hope).

Thanks,

T

I think deep inside, in places we don't talk about at parties, we all hope for each other's "demise". Some are just reckless enough to actually say it out loud. I mean, what do I care if an entire pilot group end up on the street, as long as it means I get to upgrade three days earlier?

 

[ace6453]

I heard an ASA crew bashing Comair the other day in CVG. Basically hoping for Comair's "demise". I thought ASA and Comair were "allies". Comair pilots supported ASA for a new contract for a long time.

What does ASA have to gain by Comair's extinction? This was probably an isolated incident (I hope).

Thanks,

T

Grow up!!! There are immature people at every airline. Just because you "heard" someone bashing comair doesn't mean you need to run to FI and post it. I have never heard anything but support for comair at ASA. If whatever you say is true, then it's probably the 5% that are as$holes at every airline.

 

[DX Rick]

There are clowns everywhere. We all have them.
That being said, if I ever heard anything like that...I'm straight up gangksta, I'd shank a mofo before he could say "crew meal".
Keep it real, yo!

 

[CRJ puppy]

Take a deep breath and just let it go...

There are anal sphincters every where. But the good part is that you can ignore them.

Have a great day!

 

[Sig]

That being said, if I ever heard anything like that...I'm straight up gangksta, I'd shank a mofo before he could say "crew meal".

Keep it real, yo!

PRICELESS! That was great!

 

[CFI2766]

Doubtful. Possible, but doubtful.

 

[aviatrix]

Yup, it's everywhere! Unfortunately! Seems the worst-of-the-worst have joined the professional pilot career. Long gone are the old days. Just look at FlightInfo......just seven years ago it used to be good discussions of aerodynamics, or even quantum physics. Now it's just a bunch of 23 year-olds claiming their regional is better than another. The former frequent FlightInfo visitors (the intelligent ones) dont even come on here anymore. Now it's just lame.
I think it's a generational thing. (Oh my god, I never thought I'd say that, but I guess I'm old now!)

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Comair pilots supported ASA for a new contract for a long time.

With what?!?!?!? The flight bag sticker your MEC sent us or by agreeing to pay cuts while ASA was fighting for a pay raise???

 

[79%N1]

Oh SNAP!!!!!!!!

 

[Tarzan]

Just look at FlightInfo......just seven years ago it used to be good discussions of aerodynamics, or even quantum physics.

Ummm, no it wasn't.
Posted 12/9/02

......and they forgot to tell you that management will FIRE you if they don't need you and the "teamsters" won't do sh!t to help you......and......they will undercut other carriers so they can whore their pilots out for chicken feed (its rediculous what they pay), employee moral is at an all time low........uh.......other than that they're a GREAT company to work for!

-J

There were a bunch of kids trying to see who was smarter arguing about the treadmill and airplane and playing the "your regional bottom feeds more than mine.". Same old stuff, new faces. Except now it is personal because when someone gets another plane, someone else loses their seat.

 

[rightseatjocky]

Omg..
I heard a Comair Crew bashing ASA..
Who cares......

 

[Metro752]

Mesa Sucks?

 

[say again]

Ummm, no it wasn't.
Posted 12/9/02


There were a bunch of kids trying to see who was smarter arguing about the treadmill and airplane and playing the "your regional bottom feeds more than mine.". Same old stuff, new faces. Except now it is personal because when someone gets another plane, someone else loses their seat.

Its seems to be the norm now. Back in the day there was more aviation help talk, now its mostly garbage.

 

[Speedtape]

I heard an ASA crew bashing Comair the other day in CVG. Basically hoping for Comair's "demise". I thought ASA and Comair were "allies". Comair pilots supported ASA for a new contract for a long time.

What does ASA have to gain by Comair's extinction? This was probably an isolated incident (I hope).

Thanks,

T

Tiffany,
If that happened, sorry for their behavior. I can assure you that doesn't represent the norm at my company.

In regard to the comment about Comair pilots taking a concession on pay when we were trying to raise the bar, the poster probably does not understand how the Bankruptcy process works! No one has a choice--you get what a Psuedo Judge(not a real judge but more of an arbitrator), who represents the creditors, gives you.

Actually, it could have been much worse! The reality is, that the position and ability of the Comair pilots in the Bankruptcy process, is like being in a raft in a raging river with no oars. Or for pilots, it's like being in severe turbulence--the rule of thumb is you have no control, just attempt to keep the wings level and pray that they don't fall off.

 

[buscap]

Yup, it's everywhere! Unfortunately! Seems the worst-of-the-worst have joined the professional pilot career. Long gone are the old days. Just look at FlightInfo......just seven years ago it used to be good discussions of aerodynamics, or even quantum physics. Now it's just a bunch of 23 year-olds claiming their regional is better than another. The former frequent FlightInfo visitors (the intelligent ones) dont even come on here anymore. Now it's just lame.
I think it's a generational thing. (Oh my god, I never thought I'd say that, but I guess I'm old now!)

I guess it's also become a place for old guys to bash young guys??!!

 

[neecy]

I Love CVG not my job

I love goin to CVG as a F/A at ASA and this shi? ain't my job..... You do not do trash, you do not cross seat belts, no catering....No problem.... No job. It Suc?? to be you

 

[Speedtape]

I guess it's also become a place for old guys to bash young guys??!!

Chill, comrade! Arrogance, selfishness, egocentricity, and narcissism knows no age! It comes in all shapes, colors, and ages!

 

[crj567]

With what?!?!?!? The flight bag sticker your MEC sent us or by agreeing to pay cuts while ASA was fighting for a pay raise???

Betta watchyousef, dog, some of us have sharpened out flightbag stickers into formidable weapons...... We do operate from "the ATL," we all gots to defend our peeps.

 

[DX Rick]

Betta watchyousef, dog, some of us have sharpened out flightbag stickers into formidable weapons...... We do operate from "the ATL," we all gots to defend our peeps.

Shiat dawg, yooz aint ganksta!
Go put your swearter back on Mr. Rogers.
Leave the real thuggin to us in the JFK/CVG

 

[CFI2766]

What evah, I'll do what I wawnt...

 

[Beergut]

I heard an ASA crew bashing Comair the other day in CVG. Basically hoping for Comair's "demise". I thought ASA and Comair were "allies". Comair pilots supported ASA for a new contract for a long time.

What does ASA have to gain by Comair's extinction? This was probably an isolated incident (I hope).

Thanks,

T

The ASA guy was probably provoked by a wisecrack from a Comair pilot. I would be surprised if he just announced something out of the blue. Most of us have compassion for what you are going through and we hope it does not happento us.

 

[Long Time Gone]

I heard an ASA crew bashing Comair the other day in CVG. Basically hoping for Comair's "demise". I thought ASA and Comair were "allies". Comair pilots supported ASA for a new contract for a long time.

What does ASA have to gain by Comair's extinction? This was probably an isolated incident (I hope).

Thanks,

T

This wouldn't be the same ASA crew who just after pushing were yelled at by a Comair crew behind them for not moving fast enough? This was also immediately after the CVG ramp controller instructed the ASA crew to turn onto the line and hold.

Maybe it was the ASA crew who was recently yelled at by a Comair crew for entering the ramp "without a clearance", yet Ground and Tower are the only two "controlled" entities. The ramp controller is not employed by the FAA and thereby has no real authority.

I guess what I'm getting at is that we're not all angels out there. Not that ASA pilots are angels, but more than likely the situation was provoked. Granted, we do have some winners that would open their mouths over anything, too.

 

[CRJ puppy]

I love goin to CVG as a F/A at ASA and this shi? ain't my job..... You do not do trash, you do not cross seat belts, no catering....No problem.... No job. It Suc?? to be you

Sorry honey...but that all disappeared while Comair was in BANKRUPTCY. And those people LOST their jobs! You can thank DELTA for that...not Comair. Why don't you try working for a company that gets dragged through bankruptcy by your parent company and see how you like it...

Now sit there and complain. Good day.

 

[CRJ puppy]

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[DX Rick]

I love goin to CVG as a F/A at ASA and this shi? ain't my job..... You do not do trash, you do not cross seat belts, no catering....No problem.... No job. It Suc?? to be you

It's not Comair's call on what you do in your cabin, wait it's your Captains cabin. He just allows you to work back there.
Delta calls the shots. Not Comair. So do as you're told. Fold Belts. Clean the cabin. Take out the trash and shut your mouth. This aint the old days when FA's were actually good looking, skinny, females and pampered.
And no, I won't help you. I have my own stuff I have to do. I do enough by dragging your 4-5 bags up the stairs because you're too old, overweight and weak.

 

[sweptback]

It's not Comair's call on what you do in your cabin, wait it's your Captains cabin. He just allows you to work back there.
Delta calls the shots. Not Comair. So do as you're told. Fold Belts. Clean the cabin. Take out the trash and shut your mouth. This aint the old days when FA's were actually good looking, skinny, females and pampered.
And no, I won't help you. I have my own stuff I have to do. I do enough by dragging your 4-5 bags up the stairs because you're too old, overweight and weak.

Well, in fairness, the ASA FAs have some things in their contract (such as not having to empty the trash) that the CVG station doesn't do. So it becomes a standoff if you have a somewhat militant FA as to who will get the aircraft ready.

Really, this is ASA's fault, since they know full well what the FA contract is and yet they don't make arrangements at contracted stations.

 

[Speedtape]

Well, in fairness, the ASA FAs have some things in their contract (such as not having to empty the trash) that the CVG station doesn't do. So it becomes a standoff if you have a somewhat militant FA as to who will get the aircraft ready.

Really, this is ASA's fault, since they know full well what the FA contract is and yet they don't make arrangements at contracted stations.

Then why should the F/A jump on the roller coaster, if she is not required or responsible? Pride, maybe.

 

[Speedtape]

This wouldn't be the same ASA crew who just after pushing were yelled at by a Comair crew behind them for not moving fast enough? This was also immediately after the CVG ramp controller instructed the ASA crew to turn onto the line and hold.

Maybe it was the ASA crew who was recently yelled at by a Comair crew for entering the ramp "without a clearance", yet Ground and Tower are the only two "controlled" entities. The ramp controller is not employed by the FAA and thereby has no real authority.
I could be wrong on this, but I doubt it! Like alot of other airports, the FAA can give ramp control to the Company or the airport. I would imagine that it has the same requirements and responsibilities on the pilot--and exposure if something goes wrong. So to say ramp control has no real authority is presumptive. The ramp controllers in ATL work for the city/airport. Try ignoring them the next time you enter the ramp.

I guess what I'm getting at is that we're not all angels out there. Not that ASA pilots are angels, but more than likely the situation was provoked. Granted, we do have some winners that would open their mouths over anything, too.

Who wants to be an angel?

 

[Long Time Gone]

Who wants to be an angel?

No clue what you had going on there in the blue, but that's not in my original post and I never wrote that.

BTW, I have entered that ATL ramp numerous times without talking to them first when the frequency is congested and I can't get a word in. There is no reason why anyone should block the progress of Ground Control simply because they can't get a word in with Ramp. I never said ignore them, did I?