AMR Corporation Plans to Divest American Eagle

[siucavflight]

I won't say I told you so. It may or may not be a bad deal for eagle people. What happens to the eagle contract? Is there a successorship clause? The problem is you're stuck with rj's that are just too small, and will be phased out due to increasing slot limitations and economics. APA has a strong lock on the scope clause (larger aircraft can't be flown simply by contracting out the flying). They have some real union leadership running the show now that would just as soon burn the place down than give away scope. What was that proverb about living in interesting times?

Much better post from you then I would have expected. Espically since you could of yelled I told you so.
Could be good for us, could be very bad for us. Only time will tell, I do not think that I will be sticking around to find out.

 

[SkyNation]

I heard this rumor a month ago. EMB170s out of DFW for OO after AMR restructures Eagle. I hope not. I hope the SWA one is true. Gotta be a reason they want us to vote on the yet to be announced pay package before years end.

 

[Fishpaw]

Originally Posted by SkyNation
I heard this rumor a month ago. EMB170s out of DFW for OO after AMR restructures Eagle. I hope not. I hope the SWA one is true. Gotta be a reason they want us to vote on the yet to be announced pay package before years end.

What happens if the majority vote no on what they offer? Do they offer something else?

 

[WalterSobchak]

I heard this rumor a month ago. EMB170s out of DFW for OO after AMR restructures Eagle. I hope not. I hope the SWA one is true. Gotta be a reason they want us to vote on the yet to be announced pay package before years end.

I'm beginning to wonder in the SkyWest/Eagle and SkyWest/SWA rumours got mixed together and the SWA deal might involve E170's instead on CRJ's. Would kinda alleviate that whole "Big Plane, Little Plane" campaign in the eyes of the consumer. Average pax sees engines on the wings and all is ok...LOL!

 

[Lav Service]

Welcome to the Hulas Kanodia Family of Airlines.

 

[Tarzan]

I haven't heard any eagle rumors around OO either. The hot rumor here is 100 CRJ 1000's for Southwest over the next 3-4 years. No scope at Southwest and I have talked to Southwest pilots who say they also have heard a codeshare with a regional partner. Probably will be announced next year sometime. Remember this is all just a rumor!

The sad thing is the guys that are absolutely giddy over the prospect of SW code sharing. All that means is less mainline jobs for you.

 

[goahead]

It's all about keeping the one upgrade at SKY though, that's all they care about b/c it's cool and chicks dig it.

 

[CFIT]

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[BoilerUP]

The Southwest thing is not a rumor

Since there hasn't been an announcement, wouldn't it by definition be a rumor???

SKW guys today sure are sounding like XJT guys of a year or two ago...

 

[lookin4better]

they actually sound excited to take that flying from Southwest......wow....amazing....what can you do but laugh? Southwest curtails it growth and more RJs out there....I hope the SWA pilots do not let this bs happen. Enjoy those RJs for the rest of your career....because only a few are going to get lottery numbers at mainline carriers....I see thousands of gray haired regional pilots in SKW future

I liked Eagle, but glad I left..I wish them the best of luck!

amen Tarzan!

 

[CitationUltra]

What other airline out there has the cabbage to buy Eagle besides OO???

Another question might be: Who would want it, with its high costs and other demerits? It doesn't uniquely or exclusively serve any geographic region. The only argument in favor would be the quick acquisition of aircraft and pilots.

 

[taysha]

Letter from Eagle President to employees stated Eagle will still operate as AA regional for several years. My guess is a IPO spinoff as stated in a earlier message.

A company from Iceland who bought a significant amount of AA stock a year ago wants a return on their investment. They are the ones who pushed AA to sell Eagle or the frequent flier program.

 

[BrickTop]

Letter from Eagle President to employees stated Eagle will still operate as AA regional for several years. My guess is a IPO spinoff as stated in a earlier message.

A company from Iceland who bought a significant amount of AA stock a year ago wants a return on their investment. They are the ones who pushed AA to sell Eagle or the frequent flier program.

Thus begins the spiral suffered by XJT.

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

Private equity--TPG.

 

[CitationLover]

Another question might be: Who would want it, with its high costs and other demerits? It doesn't uniquely or exclusively serve any geographic region. The only argument in favor would be the quick acquisition of aircraft and pilots.

and perhaps with it a guaranteed feed contract to AA worth lots of cash...........

 

[CitationUltra]

I think this will be a good thing for us.

An escape from AMR, no matter how it comes to pass, can only be thought of as a very good thing.

 

[CitationUltra]

and perhaps with it a guaranteed feed contract to AA worth lots of cash...........

Yes, you are right about that--undoubtedly it will involve a lucrative feed arrangement.

 

[MikeSF340]

Eagle pilots should take a good look at XJT, because that is what Eagle is going to be in about 2 years. American is going to IPO Eagle, then stick it with some BS contract that limits it's ability to compete. Then in about 2 years AA is going go "give" another cheaper operator about 70 of Eagles airplanes to fly. The new service is going to suck compared to Eagle, but who cares, its "cheaper." I have seen this happen first hand.

 

[CitationUltra]

Eagle pilots should take a good look at XJT, because that is what Eagle is going to be in about 2 years. American is going to IPO Eagle, then stick it with some BS contract that limits it's ability to compete. Then in about 2 years AA is going go "give" another cheaper operator about 70 of Eagles airplanes to fly. The new service is going to suck compared to Eagle, but who cares, its "cheaper." I have seen this happen first hand.

You couldn't be more right if you were at the corporate controls orchestrating the whole exploit yourself.

 

[siucavflight]

Eagle pilots should take a good look at XJT, because that is what Eagle is going to be in about 2 years. American is going to IPO Eagle, then stick it with some BS contract that limits it's ability to compete. Then in about 2 years AA is going go "give" another cheaper operator about 70 of Eagles airplanes to fly. The new service is going to suck compared to Eagle, but who cares, its "cheaper." I have seen this happen first hand.

This is exactly what they would like to do. However with the current pilot trends there is not a place out there that will be able to come up with the crews to staff 70 aircraft. The regionals cant even staff what they have right now.