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CoolHands

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Hey guys,

I did a lengthy search but I still have a couple of questions about AMF. I start class with them this coming monday for a pa-31 position at the DFW base. Is it possible to go straight from the pa-31 to the metro without flying the 99? I have about 850 turbine with a couple of types but need to build up my total time. I'd love to fly the 99 but there is only one based in Texas and it never sees Dallas. Also, after completion of basic indoc, is there a chance I will do my flight training in Dallas or will I just finish everything in BUR? I only ask this because AMF's website says training may take place at the domicile you were assigned. Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide!:beer:
Scott
 
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you can go from the chieftain to the metro, but i wouldn't count on it happeing quickly. you've got the the turbine time, but you'll need something closer to the minimum total of around 2500. the company can hedge on that some, but insurance requirements won't let them go very far off of it. did you get pampa or vernon? you won't be doing your flight training in dallas, because there are no pa31 training captains or check airmen in dallas unless one of the tdy's fits that bill. most likely you'll train out of burbank flying down to san diego and over to vegas. hope that helps and good luck.
 
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Thanks

Thanks a lot for the reply Dirty Beech! I kinda suspected I was way short on the total time. I was assigned the Vernon, Texas run. I'm really looking forward to starting training since everything I've read about it says it's top notch. Thanks for taking the time as usual to answer!


:beer: Scott
 
Vernon TX

Vernon Tx is a hole. Nothing to do and it use to be a disgusting hotel in the hood. I think it was an econo lodge. I did the altus-okc run a few years back. Make sure to bring food, and something to do. When I was there there was no car and the hotel is a good way from the hotel. It is also not a very good time builder unless they added another stop.

On the flip side Ameriflight was a good company. Dallas was having some problems with its mx department at the time I was there but as a whole the company was very good about keeping good aiplanes in the sky. Ususally the people the most flexible are the ones who upgrade the fastest. I originally took the altus run to try to get a foot into the dallas base. Unfortunately it was stagnate with a lot of people who were not going anywhere for a while (people who were in the pool at SWA, most probably gone and their metro spots already refilled) or had seat locks (E120). I had to leave to get the 99 upgrade.

Good luck
 
Thanks for the info Secret Squirrel. Thankfully Vernon is only about a 2:30 drive to Dallas so I'll be able to head home on the weekends. I definetly agree with you that Vernon is no garden spot :D. I'm happy for now that I'm able to stay in Texas but I think your right, eventually I'll probably have to move outta state to get the upgrade. Thanks for the reply!

Scott
 
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Yea, that was my plan also. My wife has relatives in Dallas so I figured the same thing. It would have taken longer than I originally hoped. So is it a monday night to Saturday morning run? Will you drive out to Vernon on Monday night and then drive home again Saturday morning?

If you ever have to divert somewhere go to Altus. Everybody is really nice. Lots of women working at the FBO. Took me almost a week to realize they were on work release from the local womens prison.
 
vernon isn't so nice, but coolhands won't have to stay at the hotel as he'll be living there. you will get four takeoff's and landings everyday (and usually 3-4 approaches in the winter) as well as about 2.5-2.8 flight time there. get to know the people there very well. some of the guys at that airport are very well connected and willing to help up and comers. the three day weekends don't hurt either. good luck.
 
DirtyBeech said:
vernon isn't so nice, but coolhands won't have to stay at the hotel as he'll be living there. you will get four takeoff's and landings everyday (and usually 3-4 approaches in the winter) as well as about 2.5-2.8 flight time there. get to know the people there very well. some of the guys at that airport are very well connected and willing to help up and comers. the three day weekends don't hurt either. good luck.
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Sounds like he will be living in Dallas. That means 3 hours getting home saturday afternoon and driving back Monday afternoon. I did it and it never works out as good as it sounds. My experience was that delays always happen on Saturday mornings leaving me getting home late saturday night. Plus, that means two residences unless Ameriflight agrees to put him up in Vernon again at the Econo lodge. I hope it works for him but not living in Vernon is going to be TOUGH!!! Almost as tough as living in Vernon.
 
Secret Squirrel said:
If you ever have to divert somewhere go to Altus. Everybody is really nice. Lots of women working at the FBO. Took me almost a week to realize they were on work release from the local womens prison.
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ROTFLMAO!!! Dirty Beech is right, those 3 day weekends are gonna be nice. Jerry Clark told me the run is from Monday night to Friday morning, so I plan on driving out Monday afternoon and driving back to Dallas Friday morning after I land. My family and GF live close to DFW so I'll crash with one of them on the weekends. I'll only have one residence that I'll be paying for and that'll be in Vernon. Hopefully rent is cheaper out there than it is in the DFW area. Good tip on getting to know the people out there DB, thanks. I'm excited about the training and I can't wait to get on the line. AMF has been a goal of mine for awhile.
 
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Monday night to Friday morning is nice. That should work out better for ya. I have been out of AMF for a while but the experience served me well.

ss
 
Secret Squirrel said:
Monday night to Friday morning is nice. That should work out better for ya. I have been out of AMF for a while but the experience served me well.

ss
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I sure hope so. I guess I won't know till I try it. Thanks for all the info squirrel!

CH
 
Secret Squirrel said:
Monday night to Friday morning is nice. That should work out better for ya. I have been out of AMF for a while but the experience served me well.

ss
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Secret Squirrel.....where are you flying now? Did you leave AMF after flying the SA227 or BE99? Hope all is well.
 
I left after the BE-99. I really liked the plane but left Ameriflight for a better QOL and other family issues. I fly for Express jet and I am very happy. I won't have the 1000 PIC as fast as some of my old AMF coworkers but the lifestyle fits me better. I run into a lot of AMF'ers at Express. Everyone has fond memories but is happy to move on. And I am not saying it was a better choice to go to the regional, just a better choice for me. (not trying to start a Cargo v Regional bash thread)

SS
 
yeah, well cargo is better...j/k. rent will be very cheap in vernon. i know we had an altus pilot (only 30 miles north) who was able to rent a three bedroom two bathroom house with a big yard for only $325 a month. i agree about diverting to altus. when wilbarger county was down, altus was always up, and the women prisoners are awfully happy to see you. be careful around sps though. they are always trying to nail you with a T 38 over ther.

the friday return doesn't happen anymore because the ama e120 drops into sps to pick up the freight.
 
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DirtyBeech said:
yeah, well cargo is better...j/k. rent will be very cheap in vernon. i know we had an altus pilot (only 30 miles north) who was able to rent a three bedroom two bathroom house with a big yard for only $325 a month. i agree about diverting to altus. when wilbarger county was down, altus was always up, and the women prisoners are awfully happy to see you. be careful around sps though. they are always trying to nail you with a T 38 over ther.

the friday return doesn't happen anymore because the ama e120 drops into sps to pick up the freight.
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I'm glad rent is gonna be cheaper. I guess that is one plus of living in lovely Vernon, Texas. LMFAO about the prisoners, makes me think twice about going there. Indocs going well, the teacher is weird as hell but I knew that going in :laugh:. If any you guys ever tdy in DFW let me know and I'll buy the beer!
 
CoolHands said:
Indocs going well, the teacher is weird as hell but I knew that going in :laugh:.
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Yep, all of us have been there and done that and have our stories about ground school.

Maybe you'll luck out and get that same person to do your PA31 training or your checkride! :laugh:

How's the beautiful Ramada Inn treating you? :D

Best of luck to you!
 
ah, the indoc guy isn't so bad. quirky and funny in his own way. just don't ask any stupid questions or give and stupid answers. and see if you can stop staring at that three inch wide tie knot.

gotta love the ramada. i remember another gentle man with a lovely accent in the training department would ask me how i liked the rah mah daw. it only took me three weeks into indoc to understand he was asking me about the hotel.
 
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Dude, you should go to SLC. Totally short on pilots and runs are "Ameriflight" great. You wouldnt sit reserve and its an all turbine fleet. We could use like ten pilots.
 
Yeah, the ol' 3 inch knot with the tip of the tie about 6 inches above the belt... "Foooollksssss...this is how an Ameriflight professional should look" I couldn't stop laughing when I heard that. Funny stuff. The dude knows a TON, though. And like everyone else said...DON'T ask stupid questions or give stupid answers.

I'm actually waiting to transfer to SLC, but have to wait for all the new PDX guys to quit washing out of training and actually get to PDX to relieve me. Been waiting for 3 months now...

Runs in Portland? Well, there are 11 Chieftain runs, 8 are bank runs and 3 are UPS. 2 bank runs show at 6am and get back around 7:45-8:00 p.m. Layover in Pasco and Wenatchee. Another is an 12pm show and then you are back at 4:30 but sit reserve till 7:30. VERY senior. The rest of the bank flights are 7am shows and 8pm arrivals, 9pm on fridays. Brookings, Lakeview, Ontario, Burns, and Medford.

UPS flights are 5:15am shows, but back by 5:30-6:00pm. One is Astoria and Tillamook, another Newport and Florence, and the last is a reserve flight in the morning (backs up the other planes) and then repositions to Roseburg. UPS flights are all senior.

99 runs are all UPS and go to the same places, generally, and VERY senior. We've got guys in the first 15 of the entire seniority list who are still in the 99.

Good base, good people, FUN weather... This place will definately sharpen your skills.
 
"Beautiful Ramada"

AZaviator said:
Yep, all of us have been there and done that and have our stories about ground school.

Maybe you'll luck out and get that same person to do your PA31 training or your checkride! :laugh:

How's the beautiful Ramada Inn treating you? :D

Best of luck to you!
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LMAO, yeah with my luck I will get the same guy for the checkride:D The three inch tie knot thing is hilarious and I gotta admit, it's been great laughing at all of his quirks to say the least. I learned pretty quick not to say anything stupid, which is hard for me sometimes lol. I'm actually stuck in the "beautiful" Ramada this very moment. This hotel is motivation enough to pass training and get the hell outta here :) Thanks for all the well-wishes and advice guys, looking forward to getting on with training :beer:

Scott
 
DirtyBeech said:
ah, the indoc guy isn't so bad. quirky and funny in his own way. just don't ask any stupid questions or give and stupid answers. and see if you can stop staring at that three inch wide tie knot.
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You wouldn't be talking about Ben Stein would you?
Bueller....Bueller....Bueller....
 
Piston/turbine at Ameriflight

Do you have to start in a piston to get into the turbo-props? If you have no turbine time is it possible to get hired into a BE99, SA-227, BE-1900? If you can start in a turbo-prop, which ones do you get, BE99? Thanks...
 
Ramada

I was in the Ramada when upgrading to the 99 maybe three years ago. About 8 oclock at night I heard a bunch of helicopters flying around and the front desk called and said there had been a shooting in the parking lot and the police told everyone to stay in their rooms and lock their doors. I turned on the TV and found out two cops were shot in a traffic stop in the back of the Ramada parking lot (you know, that turnaround on the left side). The cops thought the perps were held up in the ramada somewhere. At about one in the morning a swat team and dog did a full search of my room. At least one of the cops died, Maybe both.

Got to love the old ramada.
 

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