American Eagle YES or No....

[Midnight Flyer]

I read recently that senior FOs at Eagle were leaving for Colgan to fly Beech 1900s and Saabs to finally get their PIC time. Leave Eagle for Colgan? That should tell you something.

if you think that's bad, I know an eagle fo that quit for Lynx.

 

[AC560]

My name is Cash and all I need is for you to write a 5 thousand dollar check in my name and send it to me.

You forgot to list your address. If I make it for $7770 can you get me in a 777?

 

[VW Pilot]

Well they say if you know someone that helps....
All I know is the guy was an excellent instructor and worked for American Airlines and now working for them again. And that if I got what I needed, it would help if I knew someone in the company to kind of help things along. Yes, I'd heard terrible things about AE....And I'll take your word for it and stay away. I just wanted to hear more comments. I guarantee if you had any help to land the job, you'd take it too.

 

[VW Pilot]

Oh, what about United express or ExpressJet? Delta connection??....Uh maybe I shouldn't have said that one....After all no company is perfect.....
Any degrading on these regionals??

 

[labbats]

I'm amazed you can find this website, yet seem to have no clue as to how to use it.

Best of luck to you and your endeavors. Take a breath and get your ratings. In the meantime just read the posts on this regional board and you'll find out all you need to know.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Oh, what about United express or ExpressJet? Delta connection??....Uh maybe I shouldn't have said that one....After all no company is perfect.....
Any degrading on these regionals??

(psst... search function... gray toolbar, top of the page)

 

[siucavflight]

I say yes.

 

[Dubya]

When AMR spins off Eagle, who knows whats going to happen. They have ATRs, CRJ-700s, and the real money maker, the 35 seat ERJ. Save his networking abilities to help you out at American, but I wouldn't count on him getting you into the first new hire class next year.

Pennekamp, you do not own a bridge.

In fact he does. He bought it from me, sight unseen, one year ago!

W

 

[Bruno82]

What is so bad about Eagle besides upgrade time?

 

[kman]

First of all: the reason AA has so many followers, and you cant understand why: well let me tell you:

THEY ALL HAVE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR LUMPSUM PENSIONS TO CASH OUT WHEN THEY RETIRE. ALSO AA IS THE ONLY LEGACY AIRLINE TO HAVE NEVER FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY.

BY THE WAY, THE S80 WILL BE PHASED OUT BEGINNING IN 2009 THRU 2012.

AA HAS ABOUT 2200 STILL ON FURLOUGH AS OF TODAY. CALLING BACK AT A RATE OF 30 PER MONTH, YOU DO THE MATH AS TO WHEN THELL BE HIRING.

AND YES EAGLE DOES SUCK BUT FOR ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY (WHICH IS A HUGE FACTOR) YOUR HALFWAY TO THE TOP OF THE PAY SCALE AS A FIRST YEAR CAPTAIN.(9 YEAR PAY ON THE JET, NOT GOOD) BUT YOU NEVER KNOW THAT COULD CHANGE OVERNIGHT IF THE FLOWTHRU MESS GOT STRAIGHTEND OUT, BUT I SURE AS HELL WOUNDNT COUNT ON IT.

To answer the original question: you have no idea where things are going to be @ the regionals by the time your ready for them, your working on your instrument. Whether it takes you 6 months or 2 years to be ready for the regionals. Things are constantly changing. When you are ready to work for a regional, yes I would go where you can upgrade the quickest. Which is definately not ae.

 

[Bruno82]

To answer the original question: you have no idea where things are going to be @ the regionals by the time your ready for them, your working on your instrument. Whether it takes you 6 months or 2 years to be ready for the regionals. Things are constantly changing. When you are ready to work for a regional, yes I would go where you can upgrade the quickest. Which is definately not ae.

Hmmm... I think that's a contradiction.

 

[Flyby1206]

What is so bad about Eagle besides upgrade time?

-stagnantion (takes a few years to get a FO bid line with weekends off on the jet)
-mediocre pay/benefits
-corporate culture needs serious help (leading by intimidation instead of cooperation/appreciation)
-future divestiture worries
-poor performance in on-time, cancellations, baggage handling, customer complaints
-obsolete and inefficient a/c that need replacing
-company is generally behind the times, refuses to be proactive and choses to be re-active


But AE does have its good points
-wide variety of bases
-diverse flying
-great CAs with lots of valuable experience
-travel benefits on AA

 

[Midnight Flyer]

THEY ALL HAVE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR LUMPSUM PENSIONS TO CASH OUT WHEN THEY RETIRE. ALSO AA IS THE ONLY LEGACY AIRLINE TO HAVE NEVER FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY.

any idea how much the lump sums are going now that the market is crappy? Ballpark figure, what's the lumpsum amount for an AA pilot retiring today after 20 yrs?

 

[Flyby1206]

any idea how much the lump sums are going now that the market is crappy? Ballpark figure, what's the lumpsum amount for an AA pilot retiring today after 20 yrs?

I would guess it is around $2-3 million. I heard that the market performance in the past 90 days has amounted to a loss of $300k+ for guys who didnt cash out at the beginning of Feb.

 

[OPECJet]

Ya'll really took this one hook, line, and sinker.....

 

[VW Pilot]

thanks for the response kman...