American Eagle could face fines related to TSA gaffe

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American Eagle could face fines related to TSA gaffe

The US Transportation Security Administration may levy civil penalties against American Eagle Airlines after one of its inspectors was able to gain access to the interior of seven out of nine Embraer ERJ-145 aircraft at Chicago O'Hare International airport on 19 August.

Inspection results are being reviewed and depending on the outcome, TSA says it could penalize the regional. A TSA spokeswoman declined to explain the administration's reasoning behind a potential penalty.

An American Eagle spokeswoman says, "We are unaware of any violations," adding she is confident the airline followed procedures for securing aircraft overnight.

However, the carrier says in a statement it is concerned about the "unorthodox inspection techniques" used at roughly 0530 on 19 August.

An airline employee noticed a man hoisting himself up to the jet bridge close to an ERJ-145 using the pitot tube on the side of the aircraft near the closed and locked cockpit door for leverage, an American Eagle spokeswoman says.

The TSA agent admitted to using the same procedure on a total of nine aircraft, all of which the airline then pulled out of service. The agent gained interior access to seven of the regional jets. Inspections, which took up to two hours to complete, revealed no damage and all aircraft were back into service by 1045 on 19 August, the airline says

"If not observed by vigilant Eagle employees in Chicago, the actions of this inspector would have been unknown and could have jeopardized the safety of our customers and crew because of potential damage to the sensitive equipment mounted on the aircraft fuselage," the carrier says in a statement.

TSA says it was not its intent to cause delay or potential damage to the aircraft as a result of its inspections.

"TSA took immediate steps to re-enforce education about sensitive equipment located on the exterior of a plane," the administration adds.

Source: Air Transport Intelligence news

You have got to be kidding me!!!


MESA (& TSA) SUCKS!
 
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Wow... I don't know about the EMB, but the CRJ actually has instructions on the out side on how to open the door.
 

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What the Hell!!!!!!

Another Example of a total waste of Government Money and Resources!!!!


Sounds like they are trying to Cover their A$$'s after a big F-up!


Opps! I am sorry. I forgot that the 9/11 Terriorist walked right on the ramps and Climbed on Probes to hijack the planes.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeezus H Christ !!! What a joke of an adminstration!
 

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As long as they're scaling the sides of the fuselage using the pitot tubes, why not just bust out a Sawz-all and cut a hole into the plane?

MM
 

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Demonstrated stupidity?
Check!

Rewarded for negligence/incompetence?
Check!

Sidestep the real issue?
Check!

Government operation checklist complete!
 

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TSA should be punished as their security measures failed, allowing the "undercover" agent on the ramp to begin with. Or maybe he used his SIDA badge, which would compromise the whole "test" to begin with.

I don't understand the logic of this whole test. The most critical part of aircraft security is keeping unauthorized people from entering the RAMP in the first place.

TSA are a bunch of retards who have gotten too much power and ego. It's getting out of hand. This right here is ridiculous.
 
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couldnt you just approach the service door and open if from ground level and climb up.....Chicago doesn't require inspection stickers overnight, and it's my understanding that all planes are checked before the first flight of the day.
 

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I think this whole thing backfired on the TSA. They f***ed up, and so they fine Am Eagle. Chances are, if you break or f*** with something long enough, you can get into it.

Next time you go thru ORD security, ask them how many planes they broke last night.

And for AE, I would put armed guards on a couple of planes....you know, the planes that have a sign, "THIS DOOR IS UNLOCKED". When the TSA guy opens the door and puts his head in there.....well you know what happens next.
 

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I think this whole thing backfired on the TSA. They f***ed up, and so they fine Am Eagle. Chances are, if you break or f*** with something long enough, you can get into it.

Next time you go thru ORD security, ask them how many planes they broke last night.

And for AE, I would put armed guards on a couple of planes....you know, the planes that have a sign, "THIS DOOR IS UNLOCKED". When the TSA guy opens the door and puts his head in there.....well you know what happens next.
Not armed guards, but guard dogs think of the joy of watching a pissed of Doberman dragging a TSA Agent across the ramp by the throat!
 

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What surprises me is that these idiots wanted to go and see if they could break into an airplane, as if parked jets at airports are some kind of bullet-proof impenetrable fortresses?!?

I got news for your genius, all it takes is to push a button/pull the lever, and the door will come right open.

So what exactly where they trying to "prove" by doing what they did?

Sounds to me like they had a major eff up, and to cover their as$es and save face, they are playing it off as the airline's fault.

TSA... I don't trust them one bit. I swear the next time one of these bozos shows up on my airplane, I will call airport police, and tell them that someone suspicious is asking me questions, and is wearing a police-like badge that looks very fake to me! Let the airport police deal with them.
 

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And I am certainly going to supervise their "visits" on-board to make sure they don't touch anything!
They will be briefed beforehand as to the reason.
How is it possible that such morons have government jobs?
 

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Maybe if they actually did their job and secured the damn airport we would not have to go through any of this bull$hit. Put real security in place into and around the airports, not the facade that they show right now. Example: Really, how hard would it be to get into an aircraft in say ITH, ILM, ACK, or BGM. If these tards actually secured the airport, none of this secure the aircraft crap would need to take place.
 

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The Ramp Is A Secure F'n Area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Demonstrated stupidity?
Check!

Rewarded for negligence/incompetence?
Check!

Sidestep the real issue?
Check!

Government operation checklist complete!


You are right!! TSA agents are worthless pieces of dung. I went through security in KBHM the other day and asked if they had been climbing on any airplanes here. They obviously didn't get it and one of them told me to be quiet. you know me, kan't shut the yapper. They are all IDIOTS!!
 

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Had a TSA Agent show up at the airplane before the first flight of the day. She had another "agent" with her, saying she was training. I asked to see ID's. The one in training did not have one. I kept both of them from entering the airplane and called called our GSC.
Niether of them got on the airplane.
 

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Had a TSA Agent show up at the airplane before the first flight of the day. She had another "agent" with her, saying she was training. I asked to see ID's. The one in training did not have one. I kept both of them from entering the airplane and called called our GSC.
Niether of them got on the airplane.
Good for you man. I wish more of us had the cojones to stand up to this police state and it's unchecked "authority."
 

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Good for you man. I wish more of us had the cojones to stand up to this police state and it's unchecked "authority."
It's not like they have a clue to what they're looking at to begin with. She wanted to show her how to inspect the lav, seats and seat backs.
I wanted to be a smart azz and tell her that if that's the case, you can do it every morning for the FA's.
But I figured I was pizzing them off enough as it was, I'd leave it at that. Showed them who was really incharge of the airplane.
 

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It's not like they have a clue to what they're looking at to begin with. She wanted to show her how to inspect the lav, seats and seat backs.
I wanted to be a smart azz and tell her that if that's the case, you can do it every morning for the FA's.
But I figured I was pizzing them off enough as it was, I'd leave it at that. Showed them who was really incharge of the airplane.
Should have called 911 and reported them as suspicious persons with questionable identification attempting to gain access to an aircraft.
 
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