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American ‘virtual merger’ --I don't like the sound of that

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Tail Gunner Joe

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source: American-JAL ‘virtual merger’ to target Chicago

...Once fierce competitors, American and JAL received antitrust immunity to set prices and share revenues on flights between the U.S. and Japan last fall, and antitrust immunity for the partnership was also a condition of a 2010 Open Skies Treaty between the U.S. and Japan.

The two Oneworld carriers will initially divvy up revenues on 10 routes between the U.S. and Japan that currently generate about $1.5 billion in revenues. They plan to eventually expand the partnership to share revenues on flights from Chicago and Los Angeles to Shanghai and Beijing, provided they obtain approval from U.S. and Chinese regulators.

Japan Airlines and American currently codeshare on 123 flights, jointly selling seats on the flights regardless of which of the carriers operates them. That number is expected to gradually increasing in coming months to give JAL a presence in markets like Salt Lake City and Sacramento.

On Jan. 27, American will begin codesharing on JAL-operated flights between Tokyo’s Haneda Airport and Singapore and Hong Kong. American plans to place its code on Japan Airlines’ domestic flights starting in March, provided Japanese regulators grant approval...
 
source: American-JAL ‘virtual merger’ to target Chicago

...Once fierce competitors, American and JAL received antitrust immunity to set prices and share revenues on flights between the U.S. and Japan last fall, and antitrust immunity for the partnership was also a condition of a 2010 Open Skies Treaty between the U.S. and Japan.

The two Oneworld carriers will initially divvy up revenues on 10 routes between the U.S. and Japan that currently generate about $1.5 billion in revenues. They plan to eventually expand the partnership to share revenues on flights from Chicago and Los Angeles to Shanghai and Beijing, provided they obtain approval from U.S. and Chinese regulators.

Japan Airlines and American currently codeshare on 123 flights, jointly selling seats on the flights regardless of which of the carriers operates them. That number is expected to gradually increasing in coming months to give JAL a presence in markets like Salt Lake City and Sacramento.

On Jan. 27, American will begin codesharing on JAL-operated flights between Tokyo’s Haneda Airport and Singapore and Hong Kong. American plans to place its code on Japan Airlines’ domestic flights starting in March, provided Japanese regulators grant approval...

nothing to see here... it's those 50 seaters you gotta worry about. :rolleyes:
 
Tokyo hub without 5th freedom issues. Another way to skin the cat.

TC
 
maybe you were given "Virtual Scope" and don't know it?

(If only furloughs were "virtual".)

This may be the turning point in history of AA ceasing to be an airline and becoming simply a ticket agent.
Maybe they wanted their flights de-listed from Travelocity, because AA wants to become travelocity.
 
Ding, winner!

What has AA done in the last five years, really? They are setting themselves up for divestiture.
 
This may be the turning point in history of AA ceasing to be an airline and becoming simply a ticket agent.
Maybe they wanted their flights de-listed from Travelocity, because AA wants to become travelocity.

I seem to recall (but can't find with a Google search) a talk Carty gave just prior to 9/11 (and thus didn't receive much attention after the attacks) saying something to the effect that his vision for AA's future was to not own a single airplane nor employ a single flight crew member. Anybody else remember that... or have a copy of what he said?
 
I seem to recall (but can't find with a Google search) a talk Carty gave just prior to 9/11 (and thus didn't receive much attention after the attacks) saying something to the effect that his vision for AA's future was to not own a single airplane nor employ a single flight crew member. Anybody else remember that... or have a copy of what he said?

I think it was actually Crandall who said that his perfect airline would only sell tickets, and that everything would be outsourced. Crandall begot Carty who begot Arpey so it's a logical progression.
 

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