Am I legal?

[learflyer]

Sorry, didn't mean to get your hopes up, i'm not an 18 yr old school girl. I just received a phone call from an agency needing a contract pilot (sic) for the beechjet. I'm not current on the acft, haven't been to school on it since May 05'. I'm type rated. Am I ok to swing gear? Fly in the Left seat (but not as PIC on acft)? The guy I spoke with says I'm ok to fly as sic.

 

[avbug]

Not yet.

Is this a Part 91, or 135 operation?

 

[learflyer]

91. That's what I thought was saving me.

 

[learflyer]

I guess my question is: Do i need the 6/6 ifr currency as well as 3 takeoffs and landings? My thinking is I just need to go up and do three touch and go's (which we plan on doing when I get there). I'm current in the Hawker, but that doesn't help me in the Beech (because I need to be part 91 current in TYPE).

 

[avbug]

§ 61.55 Second-in-command qualifications.

(b) Except as provided in paragraph (d) of this section, no person may serve as a second in command of an aircraft type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or in operations requiring a second in command unless that person has within the previous 12 calendar months:

(1) Become familiar with the following information for the specific type aircraft for which second-in-command privileges are requested -
(i) Operational procedures applicable to the powerplant, equipment, and systems.
(ii) Performance specifications and limitations.
(iii) Normal, abnormal, and emergency operating procedures.
(iv) Flight manual.
(v) Placards and markings.

(2) Except as provided in paragraph (e) of this section, performed and logged pilot time in the type of aircraft or in a flight simulator that represents the type of aircraft for which second-in-command privileges are requested, which includes -

(i) Three takeoffs and three landings to a full stop as the sole manipulator of the flight controls;
(ii) Engine-out procedures and maneuvering with an engine out while executing the duties of pilot in command; and
(iii) Crew resource management training.

This might work in your favor, but you do need to be current:

(f) This section does not apply to a person who is:

(1) Designated and qualified as pilot in command under subpart K of part 91, part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter in that specific type of aircraft;
(2) Designated as the second in command under subpart K of part 91, part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter in that specific type of aircraft;

 

[learflyer]

Thanks, Avbug. It looks to me, the way I interpret this is that I need to be current in that specific type. It seems as though that even though I'm current in the hawker, I must be specifically current in the BE40. Is this how you interpret it? Down below, where I bold faced and underlined, it does not include part 91. The info you sent me does include part 91.



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Sec. 61.55 - Second-in-command qualifications.
(a) Except as provided in paragraph (d) of this section, no person may serve as a second in command of an aircraft type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or in operations requiring a second in command unless that person holds:
(1) At least a current private pilot certificate with the appropriate category and class rating; and
(2) An instrument rating that applies to the aircraft being flown if the flight is under IFR.
(b) Except as provided in paragraph (d) of this section, no person may serve as a second in command of an aircraft type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or in operations requiring a second in command unless that person has within the previous 12 calendar months:
(1) Become familiar with the following information for the specific type aircraft for which second-in-command privileges are requested --
(i) Operational procedures applicable to the powerplant, equipment, and systems.
(ii) Performance specifications and limitations.
(iii) Normal, abnormal, and emergency operating procedures.
(iv) Flight manual.
(v) Placards and markings.
(2) Except as provided in paragraph (e) of this section, performed and logged pilot time in the type of aircraft or in a flight simulator that represents the type of aircraft for which second-in-command privileges are requested, which includes --
(i) Three takeoffs and three landings to a full stop as the sole manipulator of the flight controls;
(ii) Engine-out procedures and maneuvering with an engine out while executing the duties of pilot in command; and
(iii) Crew resource management training.
(c) If a person complies with the requirements in paragraph (b) of this section in the calendar month before or the calendar month after the month in which compliance with this section is required, then that person is considered to have accomplished the training and practice in the month it is due.
(d) This section does not apply to a person who is:
(1) Designated and qualified as a pilot in command under part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter in that specific type of aircraft;
(2) Designated as the second in command under part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter, in that specific type of aircraft;
(3) Designated as the second in command in that specific type of aircraft for the purpose of receiving flight training required by this section, and no passengers or cargo are carried on the aircraft; or
(4) Designated as a safety pilot for purposes required by §91.109(b) of this chapter.
(e) The holder of a commercial or airline transport pilot certificate with the appropriate category and class rating is not required to meet the requirements of paragraph (b)(2) of this section, provided the pilot:
(1) Is conducting a ferry flight, aircraft flight test, or evaluation flight of an aircraft's equipment; and
(2) Is not carrying any person or property on board the aircraft, other than necessary for conduct of the flight.
(f) For the purpose of meeting the requirements of paragraph (b) of this section, a person may serve as second in command in that specific type aircraft, provided:
(1) The flight is conducted under day VFR or day IFR; and
(2) No person or property is carried on board the aircraft, other than necessary for conduct of the flight.
(g) Except as provided in paragraph (h) of this section, the requirements of paragraph (b) of this section may be accomplished in a flight simulator that is used in accordance with an approved course conducted by a training center certificated under part 142 of this chapter.
(h) An applicant for an initial second-in-command qualification for a particular type of aircraft who is qualifying under the terms of paragraph (g) of this section must satisfactorily complete a minimum of one takeoff and one landing in an aircraft of the same type for which the qualification is sought.
[Doc. No. 25910, 62 FR 16298, Apr. 4, 1997; Amdt. 61-103, 62 FR 40898, July 30, 1997]




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[avbug]

Two separate issues. 61.55(d)(1) and (d)(2) simply state that the SIC requirements of 61.55 don't apply to you if you're current as PIC or SIC under Part 121 or 135 in that type of aircraft. You're current in the Hawker, but not the Beechjet. Therefore, these subparagraphs don't apply. As you don't intend to operate the Beechjet under Part 135, the regulations of Part 135 don't apply to you. The only applicable regulation for you, operating under Part 91 only, is 61.55.

Part 61.55 requires that within the previous 12 months you've experienced in type three takeoffs and landings as sole manipulator, engine-out proceedures while performing the duties of PIC (even though this is a SIC regulation), and CRM proceedures. These are particular to aircraft type.

Unless you're going international, a type rating isn't required. 61.55(a)(3) requires at a minimum a SIC type, but not in domestic airspace. A private pilot certificate with an instrument rating will do the trick, no type. If you are going international, your full PIC type is more than adequate...all you need is recency of experience. The regulation does not address the degree with which you must "become familiar" with the aircraft, proceedures, etc. Having read the AFM and done the landings (and logged them, most importantly) may put you in compliance.

 

[learflyer]

Thanks.

 

[minitour]

...A private pilot certificate with an instrument rating will do the trick, no type...

Do you mean to say that a private pilot can be a contract pilot?? As in...contracting his or her services (pilot services) for compensation?

-mini

 

[pilotyip]

Inst currency is not required under part 91 as SIC, because you will not be acting as PIC.