ALPA taking 2% from Bonus

[scarlet]

I am not sure why ALPA is taking 2% from our bonus?

I understand the taxes, but it is not retro pay so we should not have to pay back dues?

It is a payday for them as well, 270,000.00 and 13500000, is not close to back pay.??

Somone needs to ask them about that?

 

[pilotyip]

It is called Revenue

They are in the businessof making money like any other company. They sell a service, you purchased that service under a contract. Same as the Teamsters taking dues out of my last paycheck when my last airline pretented to go out of business.

 

[scarlet]

UUMMHH we pay dues every paycheck. This is not a paycheck!

 

[freighthumper]

Good thing you have a union! Just one more way to make sure your checking account is protected from excessive funds. Let the non union people vs. union people argument re-commence!

 

[GogglesPisano]

Somone needs to ask them about that?

Why not you?

 

[Whydoitry]

Your bonus is a wage and ALPA does get their percentage. When you file your taxes your bonus will be included in your total income.

 

[scarlet]

No it is not a wage=It is a BONUS

a wage would be retro pay I believe=right?

As nothing to do with union vs. non-union

 

[WWEfan]

It's income on your w-2. I wasn't happy to see it either but then if you remember ASA MEC got 4 million in grants from ALPA to obtain this contract. They spent way more money on us then we were entitled too (bring in, in dues), and yet some say there needs to be a union for regionals?

No thanks for me. I'd rather pay 2% of my W-2's and get 4 times that back from our national union to subsidize our contract negotiations. Flight pay loss, adds, picketing, strike center, mec office, attorneys. I didn't like it at first but think about what it would be like if they assessed us to subsidize our negotiations. It would be far more than the 2% taken out of the bonus money.

 

[DoinTime]

No it is not a wage=It is a BONUS

a wage would be retro pay I believe=right?

As nothing to do with union vs. non-union

Your bonus is taxable income. You owe dues on all taxable income. Likewise, you will owe a significant amount of taxes on your "bonus" as well.

It is a payday for them as well, 270,000.00

Considering that ALPA dumped about $3 million into the ASA pilots to achieve this contract I'd say ALPA got a pretty poor return on investment.

 

[scarlet]

I'd rather pay 2% of my W-2's and get 4 times that back from our national union to subsidize our contract negotiations. Flight pay loss, adds, picketing, strike center, mec office, attorneys

That is what a union is suppose to DO !! I think we pay for all those things every month!

Rather pay 2% of your w-2, Pay that to them but we didn't get retro-pay.

 

[DoinTime]

They are in the businessof making money like any other company.

ALPA is not a company and they are not in the business of making money. They are a non-profit organization.

 

[scarlet]

Considering that ALPA dumped about $3 million into the ASA pilots to achieve this contract I'd say ALPA got a pretty poor return on investment.

How much have we paid in to ALPA for the last 10 years, for 2 contracts?

Poor investment=I know poor little ALPA, how about our investment of about 6-7 dollars an hour for them to play power wars for 5 years?

I would be fine with their FULL 2% if we got our full retro pay of about 30-35k that we would have been payed in the last 5 years?

 

[701EV]

Scarlet,

If you want to know call Dave, Danny,or Nick and ask them! Remember they work for you.

701EV

 

[scarlet]

"ALPA is not a company and they are not in the business of making money. They are a non-profit organization."

That is the funniest thing I have read in a while..

 

[DoinTime]

That is the funniest thing I have read in a while..

If you had even the slightest clue what was going on you wouldn't think that was funny.

 

[701EV]

DoinTime,

Just curious how do you know how much money ALPA dumped into ASA

 

[DoinTime]

Dave is a friend of mine.

 

[siucavflight]

Bonus is income, that is why it is taxed. Your per-diem is not income, so no taxes and no ALPA dues.

 

[scarlet]

Bonus is an income but not a wage. Ask the taxman, that is why that bonus will be taxed as a bonus, different than a wage.

We pay dues on a wage not on a bonus.

 

[pilotyip]

So What

ALPA is not a company and they are not in the business of making money. They are a non-profit organization.

Ture they do not declare profits and in that sense they are not a business, but they still make money. They need that money to do thier mission, and the more they have the more they can do so they looks for ways to keep the reveune stream steady. I belong to the Yankee Air Museum, we are a non-profit organization that flies WWII airplanes. We do everything we can to rasie money, for without it we could not operate.

 

[DoinTime]

Bonus is an income but not a wage. Ask the taxman, that is why that bonus will be taxed as a bonus, different than a wage.

We pay dues on a wage not on a bonus.

Dues are owed on all applicable income. There is no differentiation between wage, bonus, or anything else.

Quoted from the bylaws:

SECTION 3 - ANNUAL DUES

A. All airline income of a member is subject to dues so long as he remains on his Company seniority list, except as provided in Section 4 of this Article. The Association's dues year shall be the calendar year. Annual dues are due and payable in advance by January 1 of each year subject to the payment method provisions set forth in Paragraph D(1) of this Section.

 

[701EV]

Dave is a friend of mine.

Thanks,

701EV

 

[Speedtape]

"ALPA is not a company and they are not in the business of making money. They are a non-profit organization."

That is the funniest thing I have read in a while..

And, a bonus is income that is reflected on your W-2 as gross wages. Income is always taxed and is also subject to the application of dues(1.95%).

A bonus is taxed at a windfall rate so the government makes sure that you meet your tax liability for the year. Once you file your taxes, any taxes paid in beyond your tax liability are subject to a refund or, through your election, can be applied to your future tax liabilities(next year or beyond.)

One upside is that dues can be deducted from your adjusted gross wages if you qualify. You should be able to meet the threshold, especially if you file correctly.

 

[Airboss]

I asked the same question to ALPA. First, they do not collect the 2%. Once it is taken out of your check, it automatically is transferred to ALPA national. Every year your MEC submitts a budget and gets paid off of that, not your 2%.
Second, is precedent. Every other bonus paid out, ALPA took there cut.

 

[Snapshot]

Somone needs to ask them about that?

Your dialing finger broken?

 

[Soverytired]

"ALPA is not a company and they are not in the business of making money. They are a non-profit organization."

That is the funniest thing I have read in a while..

I think the 120+ ALPA "officers" pulling down >$100,000 salaries would disagree.

DW, in particular raked in a cool 1/2 million dollar for his sterling performance in keeping United and USAirways pensions safe and quality of life preserved.

(that's 1/2 million bucks PER YEAR)


The only reason ALPA takes 1.95% is because they can't take 100%.

 

[Varmint]

Where did you find the info on the 2%? Are the bonus checks being distributed already?

 

[PCL_128]

I think the 120+ ALPA "officers" pulling down >$100,000 salaries would disagree.

DW, in particular raked in a cool 1/2 million dollar for his sterling performance in keeping United and USAirways pensions safe and quality of life preserved.

(that's 1/2 million bucks PER YEAR)


The only reason ALPA takes 1.95% is because they can't take 100%.

You really are clueless. You need to do some research. I can assure you that DW never brought home anything even approaching a half million dollars.

 

[PCL_128]

How much have we paid in to ALPA for the last 10 years, for 2 contracts?

Probably less than ALPA's spent on you. At best, the ASA pilot group is a break-even venture for ALPA once all grants are accounted for. Regionals just aren't money-makers for ALPA. ALPA just spent millions on getting you a new and improved contract, and all you can do is bit&^ about dues? Ridiculous.

 

[eaglefly]

ALPA is not a company and they are not in the business of making money. They are a non-profit organization.

Ever look at the salaries of the people in Herndon ?

The lowliest secretary who's principle background highlight was successfully picking her nose, made about $45 grand as I recall.