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I actually have a bigger problem with the non-members than I do with the delinquent accounts. Lots of members get on the delinquent account list by mistake (companies don't take out the right amount of money and the member doesn't realize that he needs to pay the bill; errors is dues checkoff not being processed by the company; etc.). But someone being a non-member? That's a choice, not a mistake. Again, no sympathy. Join and pay your dues.

Are you drunk? ALPA national has been running around sanctioning concessionary contracts while companies have been raking in the profits. ALPA is signing its own death certificate with this crap. You may still be breastfeeding off of L.M. but the rest of us have had it with the needless givebacks.
 
Are you drunk? ALPA national has been running around sanctioning concessionary contracts while companies have been raking in the profits. ALPA is signing its own death certificate with this crap. You may still be breastfeeding off of L.M. but the rest of us have had it with the needless givebacks.


You must be confused. No one thinks less of Lee Moak than I do. I'm ashamed of what ALPA has become under his watch, especially where the regionals are concerned. But a union is more than one man. Throw out Moak. Not ALPA.
 
I've never heard of any flat tires at our property. Not that I would care, though. I don't spend a whole lot of time sympathizing with freeloading scumbags.

I'll bet you're the first one screaming bloody murder when your tires are slashed because YOU didn't support something with which YOU disagreed - i.e., decertification, teamsters, in-house union, etc.
 
Regional pilots will never have a majority of the Association so change from within is unlikely.

Declaration of Independence said:
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
 
I'll bet you're the first one screaming bloody murder when your tires are slashed because YOU didn't support something with which YOU disagreed - i.e., decertification, teamsters, in-house union, etc.

If you don't want to join and pay dues to a union, then don't go to work at a union airline. But if you do go to work at one, pay up and join. No sympathy.
 
publishing the list would be a form a retailiation which is illegal under state and federal law. Pray that they publish your name - and sue them. . .
 
It's perfectly legal, and done at other carriers. Get over it.
 
Isn't a union just a legalized version of the mafia? I've heard nothing but grief and uselessness from ALPA, APA, etc.

I'm curious as to why pilots pay their hard earned money into these mafias. Don't they want to use that money for their families and/or their own lives?

It's very puzzling.
 
Because we are not covered by labor laws. Without negotiating we would have our days off away from home, 24 hours off a week and have no advocacy when making operational decisions concerning safety and legality that conflict with the company's priorities. The non-union companies that do have good employee relations only do it to keep unions off the property or to attract labor.

alpa has been a necessary evil, that will lose its membership if it doesn't begin some real advocacy.
 
Isn't a union just a legalized version of the mafia?

I wish. The mafia is pretty effective. ALPA under the current leadership? Not so much.
 
Isn't a union just a legalized version of the mafia?
I wish. The mafia is pretty effective. ALPA under the current leadership? Not so much.

Remarkable to read a serving ALPA Exec Vice President wishing for organized crime tactics to be officially employed by ALPA. And it looks like one of the EVP capos is pissed at the capo di tutti capi.

"Union Thug" is exactly right.

Hey, don't be mistaken; thug tactics are SOP against guys who don't toe the line.
 
Nice spin, but not what I said.
 

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