Allegiant sub charters

[brokedash]

I worry that the subcontract flying goes much further than most Allegiant pilots realize. I don't think the hundreds of contracted flights are due to a sudden shortage of pilots or short sighted thinking on behalf of management. I worry that Allegiant Air's management is doing this on purpose. I think this is their trial run to see if they can operate an airline without their own airline pilots on staff and still maintain an acceptable level of profitability.
Evidently one of Allegiant's largest contract companies has been hiring pilots like gangbusters to fill the amount of flying Allegiant management is asking them to do. That's not indicative of a temporary problem. I believe it is Allegiant management's plan to shift flying from their own pilots to contractors over the next few years just as they've shifted many parts of the operation to contractors.
If this is the case, perhaps the best way Allegiant pilots can avoid losing their jobs is to make it so contacting does not appear profitable for the company. They also must pressure the FAA and investors to come down hard on Allegiant Management when their contractors screw up, which they do quite often. I hope that I am wrong about Allegiant management's intentions.

Which subcontractor is hiring due to G4 demand?

 

[reepicheep]

Falcon Air Express most likely......

Those folks are gonna have a decision to make in a couple years; less maybe depending on mediation.

 

[labbats]

Anyone concerned about people crossing our inevitable picket line aren't familiar with what happened to the pilots that flew one flight for Spirit.

Times have changed and before that plane landed the internet was afire with their names, pictures and even addresses. No one will cross a picket line anymore.

 

[brokedash]

Anyone concerned about people crossing our inevitable picket line aren't familiar with what happened to the pilots that flew one flight for Spirit.

Times have changed and before that plane landed the internet was afire with their names, pictures and even addresses. No one will cross a picket line anymore.

One hopes a line is honored. But I find it hard to believe that Falcon crew that scabed Spirit didn't know what they where doing, contrary to what the scabbing FO said. Remember Falcon is a place with a reputation to take the $ vs. Instilling a belief in doing the right thing in it's employees.

 

[brokedash]

Falcon Air Express most likely......

Those folks are gonna have a decision to make in a couple years; less maybe depending on mediation.

The silver lining is that Falcon has maybe a half dozen planes at most. It would take quit a while just to match G4s numbers, let alone the cost of getting planes on their certificate and finding pilots that will work for a 121 company that allegedly doesn't have a pay scale and what pilots start at is as high as it goes.

 

[Noodles]

I think there would be a few Allegiant pilots that would cross a picket line, but not very many. A lot of the management types will.

In total though, they could move more than a couple planes, so it wouldn't really make a lot of difference.

 

[BEECH-SLAPPED]

If it were cheaper to outsource all the flying they would have done it already, government shutdown or not.

 

[BRA]

If it were cheaper to outsource all the flying they would have done it already, government shutdown or not.

exactly.

 

[BigFlyr]

Just as long as you don't "help us out" after we are released from mediation.

As a former EAL striking machinist, I know exactly what you mean! Our pilot group is aware and ready to reject any action not supported by the union.

 

[Chuck Steak]

It seems like Allegiant management does whatever they want to, lately? Does Allegiant ever upgrade out of seniority in this day and age? This couldn't be true, could it?uke:

 

[reepicheep]

They're not upgrading anyone right now, and haven't for months.

 

[Noodles]

But they are hiring street captains (management pilots).

 

[Chuck Steak]

Does MNGT ever outsource Repo flights when regular reserves could've covered it???

 

[SAABaroowski]

Wasn't the SCAB Falcon Air CA a retired DELTA guy?

 

[Noodles]

Rumor has it they have used some non-Allegiant pilots to move some aircraft recently.