Allegiant Air Hiring RJ Drivers NOW!!!

[JA PILOT]

Just got off Jumpseating with Allegiant.
I was told they are interviewing and hiring now.
Furlough pilot get priority.
But they like RJ guys/gals.
Min 1500tt/500multi
They fly MD-80's
www.allegiantair.com
CP: Mike Devincezi
702-851-7300

 

[avrodriver]

True. I know they took one of our CRJ F/O's. I think he went from interview to class in less than a week ( I would suppose that was because they had some people cancel). Had no inside track, just happened to bump into one of thier pilots. Good deal if you live in Vegas or Orlando ( he lived in one of thier domiciles)....sounds like things are on the upswing there.

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[Vegas Flyer]

JAPilot,

We are hiring, mins are closer to 4000TT and 2000 Jet.

We've had to take less to fill classes.

Other info correct.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

A few corrections

Mins: 3000 tt and an ATP (most have closer to 4000 tt)

Fax: 702-851-7301

They tend to hire a mix. Furloughees don't get any priority. They like MD80 experience, but won't hire all furlough-types with experience.

The RJ pilots have done well in training and are still here. The attrition has been from the more experienced pilots that have had more options. IMO.

They have just finished a large number of interviews for a class on the 29th and another one after that. However, some of the planes that have been recently acquired will take longer than anticipated to come on line, so some will be left in the pool longer and some classes may be pushed back a little.

 

[labbats]

Flamebait

 

[tk855]

I have a feeling the rj drivers were isolated instances. I had an inside track about 1.5 months ago. I have close to 3000tt and 1500 121 jet sic, but NO atp. I was told thanks but no thanks. They said get your atp and another 1000 to 2000 hours and re-apply, you will be competitive then!

 

[labbats]

Why would you leave a 5-6 year job at a regional for an FO job at Allegiant for the same money? It's an MD80, so what? Unless you live in base there is no reason clear to me.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Why would you leave a 5-6 year job at a regional for an FO job at Allegiant for the same money? It's an MD80, so what? Unless you live in base there is no reason clear to me.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[chperplt]

Originally Posted by labbats
Why would you leave a 5-6 year job at a regional for an FO job at Allegiant for the same money? It's an MD80, so what? Unless you live in base there is no reason clear to me.

I don't know... Maybe because you're looking at upgrade in a year + right now.. Maybe you want to work for a growing company that makes money.. There are a lot of reason to leave a regional job for Allegiant and airlines like it. Don't be so narrow sighted that you don't look at the bigger picture.

Anyone know what Airtran (Valujet) paid when they 1st started out? Allegiant air is in it's infancy with regard to scheduled service. Pay is absolutely sub standard right now, but you have to understand the big picture and realize things will change.

 

[FlyingToIST]

Allegiant is not Airtran in its infacny. Airtran went after the business travelers in a market that was saturated with very high fares (ATL) becuase there was no competition. (TWA had pulled from ATL at the time).

Allegiant is flying from BFE - LAS. they have a great niche and they are growing thanks to mostly to tour operators. I bet they pick 0 origin traffic from LAS. When you have to compete with HP and WN, the business model you have is the only way to make money..

It's a good company, but it's not Airtran. An anology to Sprit could be a better suited one..

 

[chperplt]

I didn't say they were operating under the same business model, but that's not the point.

My comparison is to how pay scales of start up companies start off on the low side and grow and the company does.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

AirTran only took off once they were bought by Valujet. God knows where they would be now if it weren't for that.

 

[ATRCA]

I have a feeling the rj drivers were isolated instances. I had an inside track about 1.5 months ago. I have close to 3000tt and 1500 121 jet sic, but NO atp. I was told thanks but no thanks. They said get your atp and another 1000 to 2000 hours and re-apply, you will be competitive then!

???? Um what does being an RJ driver have to do with the fact that your times were low and you were not hired?

I'm and "RJ driver" and I have far more than 3000tt and 1500 SIC. Change the 3 to a 5 and make the SIC PIC and your closer to what most of us in the left seat are buzzing around with. The RJ tag has nothing to do with it. I good freind of mine is in training right now at Allegiant and he comes from the CL-65. Not an isolated instance as you put it.

 

[Thedude]

Anyone know what Airtran (Valujet) paid when they 1st started out? .

From what I remember, talking to a guy that worked for Valuejet back in '96. He was making about $36,000 as an F/O and I beleive that was salaried postion. But he had to pay about $15,000 back then.
Yes, Value-jet was PFT back then.

 

[temcgrew]

I had a newhire walk in my resume, then heard they do not like that.
I have over 4600 hours, 1000 jet pic and three type ratings and still haven't heard anything.

So what is this crap about they have to lower the time to fill classes?
I also heard that a 23 year old was just hired around the same time I was waiting for a call. (he had no turbine pic at all) So much for knowing someone.

 

[chperplt]

I had a newhire walk in my resume, then heard they do not like that.
I have over 4600 hours, 1000 jet pic and three type ratings and still haven't heard anything.

So what is this crap about they have to lower the time to fill classes?
I also heard that a 23 year old was just hired around the same time I was waiting for a call. (he had no turbine pic at all) So much for knowing someone.

Actually, they very much like referrals. I don't think they are having any problems filling classes and aren't lowering times for get people in class.

There were a couple younger guys hired recently. They had no jet pic but plenty of turbine pic and at least one of them was a 121 check airman.

 

[tk855]

???? Um what does being an RJ driver have to do with the fact that your times were low and you were not hired?

I'm and "RJ driver" and I have far more than 3000tt and 1500 SIC. Change the 3 to a 5 and make the SIC PIC and your closer to what most of us in the left seat are buzzing around with. The RJ tag has nothing to do with it. I good freind of mine is in training right now at Allegiant and he comes from the CL-65. Not an isolated instance as you put it.

I apologize, I should have been more specific in my point. What I meant to say, I feel that low time regional jet pilots with only SIC time are an isolated instance at Allegiant. I feel that rj PIC's are perfectly qualified for what Allegiant is looking for.

Second, I have only been a rj pilot going on two years now, so I wouldn't be leaving a 5-6 year regional career for Allegiant. Chperplt hit the nail on the head, Allegiant's upgrade time is just south of the 1 year mark from what I am hearing. I would leave for that type of upgrade time, even if it is a mad dog!!

 

[ATRCA]

Got yah, sorry if I came off like a dick.

 

[BRA]

Actually, they very much like referrals. I don't think they are having any problems filling classes and aren't lowering times for get people in class.

There were a couple younger guys hired recently. They had no jet pic but plenty of turbine pic and at least one of them was a 121 check airman.

No jet PIC?? What kinda clown outfit is that? Hope people are walking around vegas with concrete umbrellas.

 

[chperplt]

No jet PIC?? What kinda clown outfit is that? Hope people are walking around vegas with concrete umbrellas

Yea, I warned them about that guy.... They didn't listen and hired him anyway. Hopefully he doesn't finish IOE and get off low time pilot status on the same day..

 

[BRA]

Yea, I warned them about that guy.... They didn't listen and hired him anyway. Hopefully he doesn't finish IOE and get off low time pilot status on the same day..

Do they have any openings for.................cowboys?

 

[AirBP]

Well, I like to think we hire "professionals".

The military trusts "low-time" pilots to haul nuclear weapons around at very high speeds, not too many of them falling out of the sky, even around Vegas. But then they have a professoinal attitude towards their jobs.

Flying a maddog doesn't require you to be superman, I think it's easier to fly than the Saab, BUT, it's very complex and the automation is left over from the stone-age. RJ pilots can cope with the speed just fine, the confusion of having to push 5 different buttons in the right sequence just to make a descent is what usually gets you. That and the manual operation of nearly every single system and no 5 tube EFIS! TP drivers cope just fine with the systems and operation because they are used to very complex a/c with little automation, they just need to adjust to the speed. The Saab had better automation in many respects than the MD has, and keeping track of the MD automation generates even more workload. If you are a low-time RJ "cowboy" like many of the punks posting here, the MD sim will eat you for breakfast and be looking for a snack shortly afterwards...

Our CP has been hiring pilots for 20+ years, he probably knows how to spot a cowboy vs. someone with a good attitude. Total Time and ratings are not everything. The new-hires I've flown with here have all been very professional, and I think the quality has done nothing but gone up.

Brian

 

[AirBP]

AirTran only took off once they were bought by Valujet. God knows where they would be now if it weren't for that.

...and Allegiant is owned by the same man that started Valujet...

...things that make you go...HMMMMMM...

 

[Yank McCobb]

...and Allegiant is owned by the same man that started Valujet...

...things that make you go...HMMMMMM...

I know that man, and it doesn't make me go HMMMMMM, it makes me go "GET THE HELL AWAY FROM THERE". That guy has ruined every place he has ever been. NPA/West Air/ValuJet. Allegiant will be no different.

"ValuJet" became the airline it is today, "Air Tran", well after this man left (was forced out after his...and the others'....shares were margin called) and an entire new management team was brought in.

The Air Tran of today is by no means in any way connected to the ValuJet of
M.G.'s day. THAT should make YOU go HMMMMMMM.

 

[scarlet]

On their web site there are no openings for pilots>??????

 

[BSkin]

Do they have any openings for.................cowboys?

BRA, now you have 2 subjects (jobs) to be satirical about, what are you gonna do (coming from the first cowboy, according to Jeb).

 

[FalconPilot69]

The Air Tran of today is by no means in any way connected to the ValuJet of
M.G.'s day. THAT should make YOU go HMMMMMMM.

I can tell you that this airline is his sole obsession. Having flown him in his Falcon, this is about all he talks about and works on. As long as M.G is the only one and he does not bring in R.B to the mix, the pilots will fair well. M.G. is a pretty savvy business man who wants nothing more than for the airline to succeed. He also does not have this typical "pilots are scum" attitude. He always treated us well.

 

[Yank McCobb]

That could be. And to tell you the truth, the more I think about it, the more the other principals from the old ValuJet days probably had more to do with the way things went than he did.

At any rate, good luck to all. I know some of the guys over there and all are really good guys.

 

[Green]

Bra-


Some more "clown" outfits that have hired without jet pic. Ual, Dal, Amr, AAA, Cathay Pacific, AWA, NWA, CAL, Emirates, and just about every foreign airline flying around in 747's, 777's, A-340's etc. Also, as someone stated, I don't think the guys flying around in modern day fighters/bombers had pic when they were hired by the US government.

 

[chperplt]

Green,

BRA was joking around... His comment was to me and was a joke about our previous employer.