All furloughed East pilots have been recalled.

[OnTheDole]

there's always:


Doctor... sometimes I feel like killing myself.

I know it's wrong... but that made me laugh.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Me too.

 

[Bringupthebird]

The lawsuits come when they try to get aggressive and end up going after someone with a legitimate medical issue. Juries would love to hear about how management tried to drag some 64 year old geriatric with a heart problem back into the cockpit to fly their love ones around.

Gotta love that east perspective (the nicest way I could think of putting it). No, the jury would love to hear how all these pilots at one carrier all seemed to become medically unfit to fly at exactly the same time. The case before the jury would be fraud and it woud be a slam dunk.

But you bring up a good point with regard to the pensions. The east pilots wet their pants at the prospect of losing their jobs and voted to give away their pensions in exchange for the priviledge of working for the lowest pay rates in the industry for the rest of their careers. If they were to see their fellow criminal comrades being fired with 17 months left to go and losing everything, they would fall in line as they have in the past, get a fresh set of Depends on and keep snoring across the North Atlantic, grumbling about ALPA, of course.

Sorry, as the eastie refrain goes, you gotta wait your turn. You won't stay junior forever!

 

[Bringupthebird]

It would be hilarious to see Cleary begging the old farts to stop calling in sick while the junior pukes are circling USAPA HQ with torches and pitchforks! All for promising what you knew you could never deliver.

 

[Green]

slightly off topic but here's an interesting bit of info

A senior Q-400 Captain at Horizon makes $121 an hour.

A senior East A320/737 Captain Makes $125 an hour.

I would guess that the Horizon CA has much better work rules as well.

 

[Thebadcat1313]

There's plenty of opportunity on the west for guys who would do the same thing. Most west guys actually like to fly, though. Probably has something to do with the higher pay, better benefits and work rules.

Oh, and there are only about 30 west furloughees who have not yet been offered recall, and that will probably happen soon.

 

[xrated]

I do believe there will be a mass exodus out east, but not because of sick bank. Not because of LTD or age 65. The only thing a lot of Easties are holding on to is the Snap Back arbitration. When they lose that, they're going to leave in droves. The East will then see the light and either accept the Nic, or bask in LOA 93 FOREVER!!!

 

[xrated]

slightly off topic but here's an interesting bit of info

A senior Q-400 Captain at Horizon makes $121 an hour.

A senior East A320/737 Captain Makes $125 an hour.

I would guess that the Horizon CA has much better work rules as well.

Thats great news. Being that senior East Captains are making commuter wages, we can get rid of Mesa and just use senior East pilots to fill the void...Call it "Mesa East". Being that Mesa probably has better benefits and work rules than "LOA 93" East Pilots, getting rid of Mesa and using East Pilots under "LOA 93" would save the company a mint.

 

[surfnfly]

I guess you forgot about the senior guys on the 757/767 and 330 that are making more than $125/hr closer to $165 for the 330.

 

[Bringupthebird]

So it only take 30 years to approach the earning power of a 3 year SWA F/O? Cool. Why aren't more people applying to USEast?

 

[Bringupthebird]

Most west guys actually like to fly, though.

Most of them actually CAN. :laugh:

 

[Scope out RJ's]

So it only take 30 years to approach the earning power of a 3 year SWA F/O? Cool. Why aren't more people applying to USEast?

Because everyone knows that you can make more as a Walmart greeter or Republic pilot than you can at airways east......:laugh:

 

[get2flyin]

I'm not real psyched about the idea that people are celebrating the fact the East pilots have had such a tremendous fall from grace within the industry. Going through bankruptcy a couple of times and then having their pension stolen sucks. Having LOA 93 crammed up their backsides was certainly insult to the injury they underwent. Like most other pilots (I would hope), I didn't celebrate their pending liquidation because the idea of putting in a career at a seeming solid legacy airline only to be thrown out on the street would be horrible for any of us. I think everyone was shocked at the announcement they would be..."merging"...with another airline and would be spared and I'd *LIKE* to think everyone in the industry felt a little relief knowing they might also be snatched from the jaws of personal financial ruin in they were in the same situation.

With that said...

The West pilots don't owe the East pilots anything. This merger has been nothing but a crap sandwich for West guys. The "East-centric" middle-management lackeys thought the merging of pilots would be a quick process and, since it didn't make a difference in the long run, they added new assets (757s and 190s) and growth to the East side. Just remember, they could have put West pilots into them but they didn't. Since then, MANY East pilots have decided to take their new found growth, combine it with imminent retirements, and try to convince everyone that separate operations was in everyone's best interest. Furthermore, insist on pay parity, then Snap-back pay rates, and then ride the gravy train into the sunset. Well you can all pretty much piss off. It isn't a bunch of Gen X'ers who are tired of your grandstanding, it's pretty much everybody. USAir is one company comprised of two groups of pilots. Everybody sinks or everybody swims. Start living up to your agreed to obligations and get over your "legacy entitlement". I'm sorry your careers sucked but don't die an angry 66 year old. Take a breath, lighten up, and live a little bit. In the long run you'll be happy you did.

Rant over.

 

[Dart]

Anything new about new hires?

 

[Dornier 335]

So far, nothing. But it doesn't mean anything. Same time last year there were no recalls. Check the application site, keep in touch with pilots, make sure you got your letters of recommendation ready when the right time comes. It might be sooner than you think.

 

[altimaklr]

What's with the hotels US Airways stays at? Most are worse than a good regional.. for example, Days Inn? La Quinta? Don't they know pilots at least need a hotel with a bar?

 

[LearLove]

What's with the hotels US Airways stays at?

I sell my hotel room and sleep in the airplane to subsidize my E-190 wages.

 

[Dart]

Thanks for the reply..I will keep an eye out on the site. Thanks again.

So far, nothing. But it doesn't mean anything. Same time last year there were no recalls. Check the application site, keep in touch with pilots, make sure you got your letters of recommendation ready when the right time comes. It might be sooner than you think.

 

[johnnyb]

No, the jury would love to hear how all these pilots at one carrier all seemed to become medically unfit to fly at exactly the same time.

Then again we've never had 63 year old pilots before.

 

[GuinessGuy]

I sell my hotel room and sleep in the airplane to subsidize my E-190 wages.

Then why the heck did take a job on the East to swing gear on the E190, if you are in that seat, i can't imagine you were at Airways very long.....Other companies were hiring when UsAir started flying that jet.....