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Ironic that Alaska is actually much better positioned financially than SWA in anyway you can rate them. Stock price, profits, balance sheet etc. They established themselves by offering a better product than most and they actually fly to Mexico themselves rather than get someone else to do it for them like SWAPA allows. Simple fact is SWA has been lucky to have employee friendly management for now. ALPA may not be perfect, but if it wasn't for ALPA the AK pilots would be a lot worse off.
I'm guessing SWA was your first airline and perhaps you went with them after all the ALPA carriers turned you down. I don't know, but it wasn't long ago that people bought 737 types to get on with SWA if they couldn't get on with an ALPA carrier, is that you?
BTW, what's wrong with owning a yogurt shop? Being a successful small business owner is just as good as someone who flies airliners around.

Haha. I think the Section 1 at SW and Alaska are slightly different.

I hope the Alaska guys can get the holding company under Section 1, if not I fear it will eventually be off to the races for 'larger feed'. Good luck guys.
 
It doesn't matter because Alaska never put a RFP. They were just selling RJ's and I assume whoever was buying them got negotiate a CPA deal with Alaska.

Mesa, being in bankruptcy, was most likely unable to bid on this business...It was outsourced from an expensive operator (Horizon) to a cheaper operator (SkyWest).
 
It doesn't matter because Alaska never put a RFP. They were just selling RJ's and I assume whoever was buying them got negotiate a CPA deal with Alaska.

One other problem is we did not sell them!!! We are leasing them!!!!!!
Does this open another can of worms???
 
One other problem is we did not sell them!!! We are leasing them!!!!!!
Does this open another can of worms???

It sure does, perhaps a legal one. If they had sold the jets to SKW, it would be a whole different thing. However, they're flying our airplanes on our routes under our operational control with our name on the side.

Therein lies the issue.
 
It doesn't matter because Alaska never put a RFP. They were just selling RJ's and I assume whoever was buying them got negotiate a CPA deal with Alaska.


B.T. and B.M. both stated in person that an RFP was put out to Regionals.

By 2016 Alaska will almost exclusively be a 156 to 178 seat aircraft fleet.
Can't you hear the whispers already, "well you see we have a big hole in our capacity in the 100 to 130 seat aircraft range, and since we are a SINGLE FLEET AIRLINE........"..

I fear its inevitable...

Tatoosh
 
b.t. And b.m. Both stated in person that an rfp was put out to regionals.

By 2016 alaska will almost exclusively be a 156 to 178 seat aircraft fleet.
Can't you hear the whispers already, "well you see we have a big hole in our capacity in the 100 to 130 seat aircraft range, and since we are a single fleet airline........"..

I fear its inevitable...

Tatoosh



bingo...
 
Sounds like we need some new volunteers for the union. But I also already know the statements to that comment. I am too busy...I am too blah, blah, blah...

But I have all the answers, just listen to me rant on FI.
 
This is just the beginning of the clean up for the Alaska/Delta merger. It will go down much smoother without the Horizon pilots on property gumming up the list.

Another quality ALPA operation.
 
This decision has got to be difficult for the QX CRJ crews that are being forced to down grade to a Q400 all the while watching the likes of Skywest operate their aircraft on the QX ramp at the QX gates with QX ground handlers, food and beverage in addition to QX station ops. What a slap in the face for QX. Sad, sad day! :mad:
 
This is just the beginning of the clean up for the Alaska/Delta merger. It will go down much smoother without the Horizon pilots on property gumming up the list.

Another quality ALPA operation.

Why would this have any thing to do with a merger? Alaska and Horizon are separate. Air Group could sell/merge Alaska and contract Horizon to the new airline. I don't see a merger of Delta-Alaska-Horizon.
 
Why would this have any thing to do with a merger? Alaska and Horizon are separate. Air Group could sell/merge Alaska and contract Horizon to the new airline. I don't see a merger of Delta-Alaska-Horizon.

Frontier and Lynx were to seperate airlines. They got bought out by Republic. Those pilots will now all be on the same list.
 
Why would this have any thing to do with a merger? Alaska and Horizon are separate. Air Group could sell/merge Alaska and contract Horizon to the new airline.

That's how it will happen, if it does. Alaska will go to the highest bidder (AA or DAL). Horizon will end up in the SKW, RAH or PNCL stable.
 

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