Alaska contract

[tico]

it is an extra 30 + if you use their math....

 

[PBRstreetgang]

FIFY - it's your Alaska Airlines ALPA unit and your pilot group controlling your destiny, not ALPA National.

Jim,Jim,Jim,
Don't you know reality is not the average airline pilots strong suit? Lets see, contract negotiated by Alaska pilots, voted on by Alaska pilots and passed by Alaska pilots, but its ALPA's fault.....how about calling out the coworkers who actually did the screwing instead of the fluffer holding the lube bottle. Nobody wants to think that the guy sitting next to them is willing to harpoon them, but history(recent), says otherwise.
Every pay package I have voted on, I have kept a copy or screenshot, laminated in my flight bag to remind me of the truth. Lesson, never, but never take the first offer.
The average airline pilot is weak and soft, and scared of most things, so really a contract negotiated on the cusp of the biggest pilot shortage since the 60's at concessionary terms is not a surprise.

 

[Mamma]

PBR, I don't think you get what they are saying. Alaska ALPA fully endorsed a marginal contract. It is not good and I doubt anybody at the airline thinks its good. Most voted because it is "better than sitting in mediation for 2 years." The NC and ALPA should have done a better job before reaching an AiP and putting it out.

 

[AKMD80GUY]

I really can't believe any FO voted for this. I say this knowing a few who did and I'm still surprised. I remember a few years ago people were talking 15 year upgrades and I'll be damned its becoming a reality. I must admit I have had a fairly upbeat and positive view. I guess I'm a glass half full type of guy but I'm tired of getting the carrot yanked away from me every time I start sniffing the left seat. I really just don't give a f@%# anymore.

 

[Mookie]

I really can't believe any FO voted for this. I say this knowing a few who did and I'm still surprised. I remember a few years ago people were talking 15 year upgrades and I'll be damned its becoming a reality. I must admit I have had a fairly upbeat and positive view. I guess I'm a glass half full type of guy but I'm tired of getting the carrot yanked away from me every time I start sniffing the left seat. I really just don't give a f@%# anymore.

Totally.

I just read the 5 questions and saw how minucucci was bragging about wages being around what they were 8 years ago. We really got fleeced by pros on this one. Oh well, back to reserve...

Mookie

 

[Mamma]

Totally.

I just read the 5 questions and saw how minucucci was bragging about wages being around what they were 8 years ago. We really got fleeced by pros on this one. Oh well, back to reserve...

Mookie

Where did you find these 5 questions?

 

[Mookie]

Where did you find these 5 questions?

Alaskasworld.

 

[Mamma]

Alaskasworld.

I figured that. I must be too dumb to find it.

 

[igneousy2]

I figured that. I must be too dumb to find it.

Q: Why are our costs going up in the third and fourth quarter? Is it because of the new pilot contract?

Ben Minicucci


A: That's part of the reason but, most importantly, we're really happy our pilots ratified a five-year deal. While it includes a 10.8 percent increase, as of April 1, our pilot wages are now only slightly higher than where they were eight years ago.

I am also very proud of the fact that our pilots lead the industry in productivity. Having a long-term agreement allows us to focus on running a safe, on-time operation, taking care of our customers and beating the competition without the distraction of labor negotiations.

It's notable that employee productivity improved by 5.5 percent this quarter, and 6.7 percent in June, and our overall cost performance continues to be very good in nearly every operating division. This reflects the commitment by all of our people to achieving lower costs.

? Ben Minicucci, chief operating officer

 

[Boxboy]

Q: Why are our costs going up in the third and fourth quarter? Is it because of the new pilot contract?

Ben Minicucci


A: That's part of the reason but, most importantly, we're really happy our pilots ratified a five-year deal. While it includes a 10.8 percent increase, as of April 1, our pilot wages are now only slightly higher than where they were eight years ago.

I am also very proud of the fact that our pilots lead the industry in productivity. Having a long-term agreement allows us to focus on running a safe, on-time operation, taking care of our customers and beating the competition without the distraction of labor negotiations.

It's notable that employee productivity improved by 5.5 percent this quarter, and 6.7 percent in June, and our overall cost performance continues to be very good in nearly every operating division. This reflects the commitment by all of our people to achieving lower costs.

? Ben Minicucci, chief operating officer

In other words....
"These stupid bastards settled for way less than what we were willing to give them. Their low self esteem and lack of manhood convinced themselves that making less than what they made 8 years ago is a good deal. Because of the low wages, these numb nuts will have to work extra to sustain their current life styles and since we are only giving them 1.5%/yr. pay increase, we are sure to get way more productivity out of them. Just look at them now; they are jumping over themselves picking up premium trips and VSA. Now these stupid fuks will even work during their vacation. Suckas!!! We sure suckered them by throwing them a bone at year 3 with a 3.5% pay increase. Those union doufs sure did a good job selling this $hitsandwich to their own; good call on dangling the 90 hour guarantee to the union guys. It worked like a charm! We are certainly shocked how stupid this pilot group is for accepting a 5 year term that will actually last at least 7 years; these guys are as smart as Forrest Gump. By then, the economy would have tanked and we can rape them for more. My bet is that these idiots will bend over and take it, as they fear so much of being parked; man, I love that word... "parked"! Lorenzo would be so proud right now. Now, if only we can work on the age 70 rule, then we can have more on our side to divide and conquer even more. Oh never mind, we have ALPA on our side to take care of that issue."