Alaska contract

[Ocity]

If we ratify this pos, its our own fault. I don't blame the company at all, I blame our MEC for putting us in this position. The career damage from this will not be recoverable. We shoot it down, team up with the very pissed off flight attendants, and MAKE THEM PAY THEIR FLIGHT CREWS WHAT WE'RE WORTH!

1.8 billion in cash and years of record profits. It's now or NEVER.

 

[Boxboy]

If we don't get scope the rest of the contract better be AMAZING !! and it's not ... Record profits .. And we had guys on the street during that time ... WTF over ..,

Exactly! No need to sugar coat a good TA, only the bad ones.

 

[Moosemunch]

You guys are exactly right.. Alaska management has a plan in mind. They have been very tight lipped about their exact growth plans by design. I think if this contract passes, there will be an announcement of some type. It may be growth using Skywest or another affiliate as contracted expansion or something with Delta. Regardless, without any real scope in place, the moves Alaska makes is going to be away from mainline, further reducing their costs and finding efficiencies with other operators. If this TA passes, it's going to be a disaster..

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

If they want so badly to grow by regional, then why not have a regional-to-mainline ratio in the contract?

If growth is sooo important that it needs to be in the preamble, then enshrine it in the actual sections.

And don't tell me that scope is "in there" because it's in the preamble.

 

[CGHercster]

Just like last time

You guys are exactly right.. Alaska management has a plan in mind. They have been very tight lipped about their exact growth plans by design. I think if this contract passes, there will be an announcement of some type. It may be growth using Skywest or another affiliate as contracted expansion or something with Delta. Regardless, without any real scope in place, the moves Alaska makes is going to be away from mainline, further reducing their costs and finding efficiencies with other operators. If this TA passes, it's going to be a disaster..

Who was surprised when they announced furloughs 2 weeks after the last POC TA was approved? No surprise. Just be happy being a career FO...

 

[Boxboy]

Who was surprised when they announced furloughs 2 weeks after the last POC TA was approved? No surprise. Just be happy being a career FO...

Hey, at least this TA has better furlough language!:nuts:

 

[fam62c]

You guys are exactly right.. Alaska management has a plan in mind. They have been very tight lipped about their exact growth plans by design. I think if this contract passes, there will be an announcement of some type. It may be growth using Skywest or another affiliate as contracted expansion or something with Delta. Regardless, without any real scope in place, the moves Alaska makes is going to be away from mainline, further reducing their costs and finding efficiencies with other operators. If this TA passes, it's going to be a disaster..

Why couldn't they just do that now, what is stopping them? If they really want to do that they are never going to sign a scope clause that prevents them from running the business they way they want to......why would they?

 

[igneousy2]

Why couldn't they just do that now, what is stopping them? If they really want to do that they are never going to sign a scope clause that prevents them from running the business they way they want to......why would they?

Which is why we need to get it in writing now...unless they are already planning to...which means they are lying.

 

[CGHercster]

ALPA has left the building.

 

[Old School 737]

ALPA has left the building.

They have ??

Out to lunch ??