Alaska Airlines Prepares to Strike

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December 16, 2008 Alaska Pilots’ Union Leadership Creates Strike Preparedness Committee
SEATTLE – The union leaders elected to represent the 1,500 pilots of Alaska Airlines today unanimously voted to activate the Strike Preparedness Committee in preparation for the possibility of a legal pilot strike against Alaska Airlines.
The previously-named Strategic Planning Committee was renamed the Strike Preparedness Committee and tasked with building the infrastructure that will be necessary should negotiations fail to produce an acceptable agreement.
Alaska’s pilots have been in direct negotiations for a new contract since January 2007, but the pilots and management have yet to reach agreement on key economic areas despite the assistance of a federal mediator.
“We continue to seek solutions that both reflect the needs of our pilots while ensuring the future success of our company, but our management continues to insist upon a contract that is increasingly regressive,” said Capt. Bill Shivers, chairman of the Alaska Master Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l. “This is not the path to an agreement. This is the path to a strike.”
Alaska’s pilots are seeking a contract that improves and protects their work rules—including compensation—that ensure a good quality of life, job security that protects against the outsourcing of their careers, a secure retirement plan, and a contract that provides affordable health care for themselves and their families.
“Our management and industry analysts continue to point to all of the reasons that we have to be optimistic about Alaska Airlines’ future prospects. If management is unwilling or unable to work with us to reach an agreement that allows us to share in that success, we must be prepared for the eventuality of a strike,” said Capt. Rich Madden, chairman of the newly renamed Strike Preparedness Committee. “Our pilots and their families will be emotionally, mentally and financially prepared if and when management leaves us with no other option than to walk out on strike.”





 

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What a absolute waste of time and money by Alpa. We are at least a year from being released so what is the point. How about we just fly 75 hours once the company actually furlough or even better use up some sick time!
 

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I for one am glad to see this action being taken by the union. The mediators last week told the company in no uncertain terms that they would not just let the company drag their feet. Our pilots have been complaining that the union isn't doing anything. Well now they are doing something.

This is just another step in the playbook.

1) Company says we want a deal but continually shows up to the negotiating table with nothing except more concessions.

2) Announces furloughs to scare pilots into negotiating against ourselves.

3) Delays said furloughs month by month.

4) Pilots call a strike vote.

5) Furlough eventually cancelled.

6) Deal signed at 11:59:59pm.

In other words, don't get spooked just yet.
 

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What a absolute waste of time and money by Alpa. We are at least a year from being released so what is the point. How about we just fly 75 hours once the company actually furlough or even better use up some sick time!
How can it be a year? According to Rez and PCL_128, the Obama administration is going to release anyone who wants it.....
 

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Both of you guys are correct. Obviously responses from an old guy and a new guy....

This is a required step...We should have been doing the ground work six months to a year ago......The face to face one on one stuff....But the new guy is correct....75 hours and not a minute more....and stuff that is in open time should sit there and rot... And it is time as individual free men and women to be handing out blanket parties to each and every pilot that does any "volunteer" flying.......As individuals we need to tighten our grip around their (corporate) neck and squeeze...We have moved into the period of "required individual civil disobedience".....No more "fly then grieve"......Good luck out there....
 

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As a side note, a little birdie told me that SEA/ATL and SEA/IAH are in the works. Station managers are being assigned as we speak. New cities and furloughs?
 

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What a absolute waste of time and money by Alpa. We are at least a year from being released so what is the point. How about we just fly 75 hours once the company actually furlough or even better use up some sick time!
We can not do this. Precedence has been set. UAL ALPA just got slapped with a Court injunction for this type of action. Their web board was shutdown and used against them in court. ALPA actually has the legal responsibility to ensure there is no increase in sick time, fatigue calls, maintenance write ups, fuel usage. They cannot say "Fly the contract". If there is any change to "Status Quo" at all, we will loose. I don't like this, I am just pointing to recent events.

This court injunction will help you understand why ALPA is acting like it is. They cannot instigate any of this, in fact they must discourage it.

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cach...4168+"1:08-cv-04317"&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us
 

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Guys, If you have 737 experience, this could be an opportunity to get your foot in the door at Alaska.
 

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Guys, If you have 737 experience, this could be an opportunity to get your foot in the door at Alaska.
Classic instructordude post to get guys riled up. Actually, its funny once you know the joke!
 

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We can not do this. Precedence has been set. UAL ALPA just got slapped with a Court injunction for this type of action. Their web board was shutdown and used against them in court. ALPA actually has the legal responsibility to ensure there is no increase in sick time, fatigue calls, maintenance write ups, fuel usage. They cannot say "Fly the contract". If there is any change to "Status Quo" at all, we will loose. I don't like this, I am just pointing to recent events.

This court injunction will help you understand why ALPA is acting like it is. They cannot instigate any of this, in fact they must discourage it.
I see your point but if the company wants to furlough when it's unnecessary then I don't see why pilots can be sick in the same fashion. What is good for the goose...

Also, there is nothing wrong with flying the min. required. If there are brothers on the street doing zero flying then there should be zero brothers doing extra flying.
 
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This is all a retard tic-tac-toe game. You know the scene in War Games where WOPR play it over and over and over? That's all this is.

They O there, we X there. It's sooo formulaic.

The next press release will be something about the company hoping to work hard to reach an agreement and that they want to avert a strike, but the union is unwilling to negotiate. We say, nuh-uh! You won't negotiate. Etc. for another 12-24 months.
 

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Guys, If you have 737 experience, this could be an opportunity to get your foot in the door at Alaska.
You and Tinker Bell (Tanker Clown) must be roomates. Don't ever plan on being at anything soon.
 

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Etc. for another 12-24 months.
Perhaps. But if the company doesn't change their tune perhaps not. Even the mediator said, in essence, he will not let them drag this out. And that is a mediator appointed by Bush's extrordinarily anti-labor NMB. You may be right, but I hope your'e preparing for a strike as though it will be much sooner. It just might be. My opinion is we want to be the first to ask to be released by the new NMB. Obama may want to show right at the start he is not anti-labor. Time will tell, but better to assume it will be sooner than later.
 

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My opinion is we want to be the first to ask to be released by the new NMB.
The company already has a press release ready to go that says they've asked to be released (to be issued once we've asked for it, of course).
 

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The company already has a press release ready to go that says they've asked to be released (to be issued once we've asked for it, of course).
Probably, but screw em. They can put out whatever press release they want. But I believe it is in our best interest to be the first pilot group to approach the new NMB and ask to be released. It will be a political decision ofcourse. I believe the new administration will want to set a more pro-labor tone. So being the first to ask would be beneficial to us. No release = no contract.
 

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They cannot say "Fly the contract". If there is any change to "Status Quo" at all, we will loose. I don't like this, I am just pointing to recent events.http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:_gC7QyxLCK4J:https://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/DesktopModules/ViewDocument.aspx%3FDocumentID%3D44168+%221:08-cv-04317%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us
Once you threaten to furlough. There is no longer a status quo.

If flying the contract causes management some sort of problem, then they should agree to a different contract.
 

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I too find it interesting that the mediator has made statements that put pressure on the company.
Mediators are in essence political animals. They are appointed by politicians and expected to act a certain way, but they always need to have one toe on the line in the center. Perhaps we are being used by the mediator, and the members of the NMB that would like to stay in the profession after Bush leaves office, to demonstrate that they aren't just lackeys for management. Personally, I could care less as long as they take my side, but if you look at that aspect of it, there is another reason for them to act in our favor. They want to be seen to take more than one side in different issues like our ol' buddy Dick Kasher. They may be vehement anti-union types but at some point they have to take the other side if they want to ever be arbitrators. If we happen to be the ones who are on the plus side of that equation, so be it.
Anything that tips the lever toward my goal I will take.
 

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We can not do this. Precedence has been set. UAL ALPA just got slapped with a Court injunction for this type of action. Their web board was shutdown and used against them in court. ALPA actually has the legal responsibility to ensure there is no increase in sick time, fatigue calls, maintenance write ups, fuel usage. They cannot say "Fly the contract". If there is any change to "Status Quo" at all, we will loose. I don't like this, I am just pointing to recent events.

"This court injunction will help you understand why ALPA is acting like it is. They cannot instigate any of this, in fact they must discourage it."



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Green Banana. As an individual free man you can do anything that your ballz allow....That is our problem....A bunch of scared little silver spooners afraid of their own shadows....Dont hurt me or I might not be able to live in SEA......Grow up and grow a pair...Alpa can say all they want but they have no control over us....We need to be causing ALPA every day to beg us to not misbehave......EFF em I say...Lets take some of our own hostages...........

Oh yea EFF the court and that judge....she needs to look over her shoulder
 

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Question to all:

What happens to a pilot group that is out on strike and the company gets bought? Does the buying airlines pilot's get our aircraft and routes and is there any SLI?

Hmmmmmnnnnnnnn??????

Baja.
 

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The union can't publicly endorse a work to rule campaign and might even be bullied into making a public statement discouraging one, but it damn sure can't compel any individual pilot to do anything other than work to rule. People either get it or they don't.
 
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