Airtran's $25 jumpseat policy

[Phaedrus]

Pilots are the cheapest sunsabeeches on the planet. My pockets actually squeak when I put my hands in 'em.
Oh yeah, we like to argue a lot too. Because we're always right.
Seahorse...fine dude. If you want to roll that way then go, there's nothing stopping you. All you're doing then is dissing the capt. who, like FL717 has so eloquently and repeatedly said, has nothing to do with this policy.

 

[SWA/FO]

I thought this topic was covered..... I guess everyones getting tired of picking on poor, old, little Southwest.

Hang in there AirTran guys!!!!! It will pass:beer: .

 

[XRMEFLYER]

After you pay the $25 for the "nonrev" make sure that you DO NOT stop by the flight deck. Just get on the airplane and take your seat. If you get any shi.t about it from the Captain or anyone else, ask for a refund. Treat it just like a nonrev. End of discussion.

Yeah! That will show them!

 

[Phaedrus]

I thought this topic was covered

And this is surprising? Maybe there should be another forum like: The Forum of Redundant Threads Forum.

 

[Capn Mike]

I thought this topic was covered..... I guess everyones getting tired of picking on poor, old, little Southwest.

Hang in there AirTran guys!!!!! It will pass:beer: .

Oh, I thought it was the JB guys getting picked on all the time.

FYI: JB has unlimited jumpseats for pilots and F/A's, including the two extra F/A jumpseats in the cabin. (And no you are not required to clean the cabin afterwards)

 

[scarlet]

I wrote in to ASA and ask that they too change our policy to bring in money to charge after the first jumpseat is gone to off line guys. Sorry, we need to make money too!! And we only take cash, like Airtran did at one time,?? wonder where alot of the money ended up? Since Airtran pilots don't mind us paying 25.00 bucks and that is fine with me--good deal--but be really to do the same to our airline!!! FLY SAFE!!

 

[mnboyev]

You cant be serious..?

Scarlet.... You should pay 50 bucks with a post like that .....

 

[Champ42272]

1.) AirTran DOES NOT charge for the jumpseat. There is ONE jumpseat rider allowed.... PERIOD. If that jumpseat is taken, you can non-rev for $25.00.

Question for FL717: I tried to get a $25 non-rev on AirTran out of MKE after Osh Kosh this summer and the ticket agent said there was no such program. I was totally confused since I had traveled on you before, both on the jumpseat and as a non-rev, and never had any problem. Was my mistake asking at the ticket counter out front? Should I have just gone to the gate? Any help would be appreciated.

Champ42272

 

[Phaedrus]

but be really to do the same to our airline!!!

I agree!!! I think...

 

[mnboyev]

The gate agent didnt know... apparently... Yeah... should have gone to the gate and tried to JS. Always ask for the seat.. Most times the agents wont charge. At least it has been my experience. ie Memphis-ATL.

I helped a fellow 'other airline' pilot out by listing non-rev. That left the JS open for a off line pilot without the pass fee. Northwest fellas did this for me lots back in the day commuting between DTW and MSP.

Part of the problem with the program is ... The Captain does not sign the form for the off line jumpseater at AirTran. So... If the agent gives the rider a seat assignment, the front office may not know what went on... We need to get that changed.. if we can?

I will contact the Jumpseat Committee and inquire. This has been a 'thorn' for a while. The pilots are not down for the charge.. but management didnt ask us? So, we do what we can to make it work correctly and in a fair manner.

Bout a two years back we tried to give United Captain back his 25 bucks because the agent charged by mistake. Ahhh Shiessss... Still sorry bout the mistake... He didnt care... was happy to get out of LGA.

Bottom line... Ask the crew.. They are good folks.. They will do what they can to help. Alot of commuters at FL and sincerely want to help folks get home to their families.



However, Most folks stop up and say Hi anyway and check in with the Crew.

 

[jimcav]

Hey Seahorse, just try pulling that disrespectful crap on my airplane and see if I don't throw your ass off. I've been down that road many times before and will say something. A few times while saying goodbye to pax I've noticed a pilot in uniform get off. As I would nod or say goodbye the guy/gal completely ignored me. As I followed them out the door I'd ask if they bought a ticket and the response was no. Then I would explain how things are supposed to work and believe it or not a couple of these people gave me attitude. So, by all means come on down and play your little game and see if I or one of my compadres don't leave you behind. By the way I don't like the 25$ policy either but it still beats the alternative. I've had a few nights when I wished a few other airlines had the same policy. I would have made it home to the wife and kids, and afterall, it's only 25$. That being said I hope the company gets rid of it.

 

[Salty Pirate]

Not since you closed DFW . . . . .



I take the high road when I load up my plane with Delta pilots after being turned away from a Delta flight because some other OAL pilot got there first.

I would gladly pay $25 bucks to get home rather than pay $40. to the Wellesley to spend the night after being turned away at Delta, Chief. And the $25. is a non-rev pass available only to OAL pilots. If I use a Delta buddy pass, it costs money . . . yet is still considered non-revving.

Maybe you ought to think these things through before you make these assinine posts.

Last time I checked at correct me if I am wrong genius, but a buddy pass is considered a YIELD FARE. Not non-rev. If you take money at the gate that is considered revenue........I repeat REVENUE.........How more clear could it be. Maybe you ought to think things out before you post. Also when did I get hostile during my post, I had an honest question about a policy that I was unfamiliar with so I posted a question on an information forum.....IMAGINE THAT....Get a clue and do what you can to get rid of this worthless policy.

 

[twepilot]

Ok I'll bite...whats a "yield fare?" Maybe I'll learn something...but I doubt it.

RV

 

[FLB717]

Salty,
Are you one of those 135 guys who plays Airline Pilot to get a jumpseat that you can never return the same even for $25 bucks?

 

[Jim Smyth]

Jim Smyth, i'll add a disclaimer to my previous statement. This was pre-9/11 times, so things might have changed since then. I haven't jumpseated on SWA since '99.

Well this morning I went in and talked to our assistant Chief Pilot about this issue. He said he never heard of any Pilot having to pay for a Jumpseat on SWA. I then asked a half dozen Pilots in the lounge, 3 ops agents, 3 gate agents and we had a very senior flight attendant crew today. Nobody had ever heard of anyone having to pay for a Pilot Jumpseat on SWA. What the concenses was is that if you paid $25 you probably bought a pass and used that because we never charge for Jumpseats.

Its obvious that the Airtran guys dont like this policy. Hopefully down the road it can be a negociated item. SWA now has 12 out of 97 airlines on our Jumpseat list with unlimited Jumpseat capabilty and Airtran would be another good addition to that list.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

When a non rev ticket is paid for, usually 100% of the taxes/fees must also be paid. How does that tie into FL's $25 jumpseat? IOW what is it really?

Is it $25 to jumpseat but its really non rev-ing? Then can any airline employee do the same? Will FL let a UAL gate agent or AMR ramper walk up and pay $25?

If it is limited to Off Line pilots only and taxes/fees aren't being paid then FL management is selling "unlimited" jumpseats.....

 

[Salty Pirate]

Salty,
Are you one of those 135 guys who plays Airline Pilot to get a jumpseat that you can never return the same even for $25 bucks?

No I already stated who I worked for several times.

 

[Salty Pirate]

Ok I'll bite...whats a "yield fare?" Maybe I'll learn something...but I doubt it.



RV

A yield fare is a discounted ticket for friends and family, It is not non-revving and Delta makes a hell of a lot of money by selling empty seats.

 

[twepilot]

so then a yield fare is positive space?

RV

 

[twepilot]

I just re-read that post"Delta makes a hell of a lotta money" priceless...simply priceless

RV