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Here's the full letter from the NPA:
Dear AirTran Pilots:
With 87% of the eligible pilots voting the Tentative Agreement has failed by a margin of 61.37% to 38.63%
Where does this leave us? After being informed of these results our mediator Mike Tosi, of the National Mediation Board, told us that our negotiations will be put into recess until after the New Year. That will give us time to elect new leadership and for the new NPA Board of Directors to establish its direction and priorities for negotiations.
The first job of the current NPA Board of Directors is to finish conducting the election for the next NPA president. The nominations for president close next Monday, September 24 at Noon. The ballot will open Wednesday, October 3 and will remain open until October 24.
The presidential election will be followed by a second election to fill three additional Board positions: vice president, domicile representative at large, and captain domicile representative. Nominations for these positions will open on October 1; the ballot will close on November 29.
The position of captain domicile representative was not scheduled to be on the ballot this fall. Unfortunately Capt. Mark Goodin has decided to leave the NPA Board for personal reasons. To ensure an orderly transition, and to maintain a quorum, Mark’s resignation will not become effective until the new Board is in place. In addition, Capt. Brad Sims has decided not to seek reelection as domicile representative at large. We would like to thank both Brad and Mark for their years of service to the pilot group.
This means that over the next 90-days the NPA will be electing four new Board members including a new president. Having just voted down a T/A that took almost three-years to negotiate its important that the pilot group nominate and elect a new leadership team to represent its needs, wants, and desires in a new contract. These elections are critical. Please take the time to listen to the candidates so that you understand their positions.
NPA Board of Directors
Here's the full letter from the NPA:
Dear AirTran Pilots:
With 87% of the eligible pilots voting the Tentative Agreement has failed by a margin of 61.37% to 38.63%
Where does this leave us? After being informed of these results our mediator Mike Tosi, of the National Mediation Board, told us that our negotiations will be put into recess until after the New Year. That will give us time to elect new leadership and for the new NPA Board of Directors to establish its direction and priorities for negotiations.
The first job of the current NPA Board of Directors is to finish conducting the election for the next NPA president. The nominations for president close next Monday, September 24 at Noon. The ballot will open Wednesday, October 3 and will remain open until October 24.
The presidential election will be followed by a second election to fill three additional Board positions: vice president, domicile representative at large, and captain domicile representative. Nominations for these positions will open on October 1; the ballot will close on November 29.
The position of captain domicile representative was not scheduled to be on the ballot this fall. Unfortunately Capt. Mark Goodin has decided to leave the NPA Board for personal reasons. To ensure an orderly transition, and to maintain a quorum, Mark’s resignation will not become effective until the new Board is in place. In addition, Capt. Brad Sims has decided not to seek reelection as domicile representative at large. We would like to thank both Brad and Mark for their years of service to the pilot group.
This means that over the next 90-days the NPA will be electing four new Board members including a new president. Having just voted down a T/A that took almost three-years to negotiate its important that the pilot group nominate and elect a new leadership team to represent its needs, wants, and desires in a new contract. These elections are critical. Please take the time to listen to the candidates so that you understand their positions.
NPA Board of Directors
easydoesit
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I am glad that this thing got voted down, but 13% of us did not vote? WTFO. 13% of 1600 is 208.
I am sorry but those 208 people are pathetic. We are not voting for class clown here. This your career. F'in losers...
If those 13% would have voted no, we would have a 75-25 split with more bargaining power.
Pathetic.
I am sorry but those 208 people are pathetic. We are not voting for class clown here. This your career. F'in losers...
If those 13% would have voted no, we would have a 75-25 split with more bargaining power.
Pathetic.
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BagelBomber
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The scare tactic the NPA BOD was feeding us was that the mediator wouldn't be available for 6-12 months, eventhough we don't even need him. Kinda like the "vote for TA1 because of this big, bad merger coming." More BS.
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Lear70
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Absolutely!
Great job, guys & gals!!
Looking forward to seeing who ends up in office...
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CarRamRod
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Oh Yea!
Thanks to all of you no voters. This TA2.5.3.7 has no where to be in this company or union. And yes to you non voters, WTF. If you really don't give a Sheit, leave. Find somewhere else to not give a crap and sit.
Hey Lear70, do you think it might be possiable to retain your services in the next round of negotations. I'm not sure when that would be, but you have my vote and backing. I was not too far off your track when you were at Pinchnickle, I was at the Meslaba. You and I know that the scare tactics and threats are loud and large but in the end, the job still needs to get done and those that flinch first loose. My brother I am behind you 100%. I believe that you were a major contributer to a number of these NO voters.......AWESOME!
Thanks to all of you no voters. This TA2.5.3.7 has no where to be in this company or union. And yes to you non voters, WTF. If you really don't give a Sheit, leave. Find somewhere else to not give a crap and sit.
Hey Lear70, do you think it might be possiable to retain your services in the next round of negotations. I'm not sure when that would be, but you have my vote and backing. I was not too far off your track when you were at Pinchnickle, I was at the Meslaba. You and I know that the scare tactics and threats are loud and large but in the end, the job still needs to get done and those that flinch first loose. My brother I am behind you 100%. I believe that you were a major contributer to a number of these NO voters.......AWESOME!
Lear70
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(whispered loudly) MehSAAAABAAAAAA! 
I loved it when that DTW controller would say that - too funny.
I will ALWAYS be available to the pilot group, no matter WHERE I'm hanging my hat for work (or maybe even without a hat). I'm not nearly the expert that Seth Rosen is, but I'm likely a little more "personally vested" in results than an outsider would be, and would be happy to lend my skills to whatever the task at hand.
Everyone needs to have an adult frosty beverage tonight and celebrate, then really start thinking of what you DO want in the next T.A. :beer:
The hard part is likely just beginning,,, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the company take a very entrenched position when mediation starts back up in the Spring.
I loved it when that DTW controller would say that - too funny. I will ALWAYS be available to the pilot group, no matter WHERE I'm hanging my hat for work (or maybe even without a hat). I'm not nearly the expert that Seth Rosen is, but I'm likely a little more "personally vested" in results than an outsider would be, and would be happy to lend my skills to whatever the task at hand.
Everyone needs to have an adult frosty beverage tonight and celebrate, then really start thinking of what you DO want in the next T.A. :beer:
The hard part is likely just beginning,,, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the company take a very entrenched position when mediation starts back up in the Spring.
Nice work boys and gals!!!!
Way to stand up for what you believe and trying not to let your fellow pilots (industry wide) down!!!!
Anything we can do to help.......let us know. We're all following this event quite closely. Special congrats to temporarily fallen hero, Lear for his work.
Way to stand up for what you believe and trying not to let your fellow pilots (industry wide) down!!!!
Anything we can do to help.......let us know. We're all following this event quite closely. Special congrats to temporarily fallen hero, Lear for his work.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/tnBasicIndustries-SP/idUSN2137514120070921
AirTran pilots reject tentative labor deal
Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:10pm EDT
CHICAGO, Sept 21 (Reuters) - Pilots at AirTran Airways, a unit of AirTran Holdings (AAI.N: Quote, Profile, Research), have voted to reject a tentative labor agreement reached last month, an airline spokesman said on Friday.
AirTran said the pilots voted 788 to 496 against the contract. AirTran said it is ready to return to the bargaining table with the workers union, the National Pilots Association.
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Good News! Lets get it done and put this all behind us.
AirTran pilots reject tentative labor deal
Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:10pm EDT
CHICAGO, Sept 21 (Reuters) - Pilots at AirTran Airways, a unit of AirTran Holdings (AAI.N: Quote, Profile, Research), have voted to reject a tentative labor agreement reached last month, an airline spokesman said on Friday.
AirTran said the pilots voted 788 to 496 against the contract. AirTran said it is ready to return to the bargaining table with the workers union, the National Pilots Association.
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Good News! Lets get it done and put this all behind us.
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CitationLover
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"Since I am on first year pay and on RSV I am glad I don't have to take a pay cut"
You didn't read the contract!
Good job guys! They really only need to fix 3-5 things and it would be ok.
1.-Scope (why cant Airtran pilots fly them with a different pay rate for a 86 seat aircraft?)
2-Insurance
3-Reserve
4-1st year pay
You didn't read the contract!
Good job guys! They really only need to fix 3-5 things and it would be ok.
1.-Scope (why cant Airtran pilots fly them with a different pay rate for a 86 seat aircraft?)
2-Insurance
3-Reserve
4-1st year pay
j41driver
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The pay rate wouldn't have changed for him but his monthly credit on RSV would have been much lower. I'd guess that's what he meant.
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